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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    That apple sure fell far from tree.

    The guy is an embarrassment to the senate.
    Rarely do I agree with you, but here, I couldn't agree more. Everyone should have access to health care, even if we disagree on how it should be implemented... That is just a nutty statement on Senator Paul's part...
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Next you'll want your food, gasoline, mortgage, haircuts and beer paid for. Where does it end?
    Food and health care are very different from gasoline, mortgage and beer...
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    if you believe you have a right to someones labor, you do support a position that is very much "like slavery"

    I understand the hand-wringing, it sucks for you because this makes you a bad person.
    So, if I beleive someone has a right to an education, my position is "like slavery"? If I believe someone has the right to be represented by counsel in a court of law, that is "like slavery"? If I believe someone has the right to have food to put into his/her mouth, that is "like slavery"? Gee, I am conservative, but we also need to realize that as a society, we need to have some rights that actually make us human. What ever happened to conservatives and Christian values???
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    What ever happened to conservatives and Christian values???
    Well, once you distill all Christianity down to people's genitals, it's still there.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    And when slaves are compensated with food and shelter.........you might realize that slavery isnt so much about the absence of compensation as it is the absence of CHOICE.......my enslaved friend.
    Food and shelter were compensation? The owners couldn't let them starve or face the elements without protection. They were protecting their investment. Also, slaves were bought and sold, traded, and bred like animals. That is no way comparable to government paying for health care.



    [quote]So a system like Medicare--Who denies more claims than any Private Insurer.....is clearly the solution......[.quote]

    Link please?

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    And when slaves are compensated with food and shelter.........you might realize that slavery isnt so much about the absence of compensation as it is the absence of CHOICE.......my enslaved friend.



    So a system like Medicare--Who denies more claims than any Private Insurer.....is clearly the solution......



    ............and a $74,000,000,000,000.00 DOLLAR HOLE.........wake up.
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    And if it were being handled by private companies, it would be a 100 trillion dollar hole. Old people cost a lot to care for. Medicare having insufficient revenue does not mean it's inefficient.

    A higher rate of claims denial isn't quite as important as the reason for those denials. "Duplicate claim" and "Provider not enrolled in Medicare" are perfectly legitimate reasons to deny a claim. I'll take 100,000 of those over a single private insurance company's "oh we think that treatment, which has been FDA approved for a decade, is 'experimental!'"
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    No.

    I'm using history to illustrate how the idea of allowing the free market system to go unchecked tends to plung the country into economic chaos and that such irresponsible actions usually stem from Right-leaning politics. It's not that deregulation is bad; it's the lack of federal oversight that tends to be the problem. For as history has shown when industries are allowed to police themselves, they usually take unnecessary risks. And when they take such risks it's usually the public that suffers for it. Moreover, when regulations are relaxed, the government usually attempts to put into place federal oversight committees to ensure industry stays on the level. But in nearly every instance where this has occurred and there's been Republican leadership, economic chaos has ensued because leadership turned a blind eye to the issues and favored profits over discipline or the interests of the very people they've sworn an oath to protect.

    Again, don't take my word for it. Review history...
    And what industry, does not have federal over site?
    With most, if not all industries already having federal over sight, why aren't things better?

    You live in a very slanted world sir.
    Everything wrong, is the fault of Republicans?
    Blind partisan you are.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    And what industry, does not have federal over site?
    With most, if not all industries already having federal over sight, why aren't things better?
    Its oversight, not over-site.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its oversight, not over-site.
    Ok, do you have anything else to comment on?
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Ok, do you have anything else to comment on?
    Rand Paul has already been properly chastized for his idiotic and indefensible statement so I don't feel the need for further comments on the subject.
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