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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I would be fine with that, if there were repeals of other laws, like the HMO act, minimum benefit mandates, the ceiling on doctors being graduated, removal of the employer tax advantage, etc.

    Surgical (aka catastrophic) plans existed about 10-15 years ago, I remember considering buying one.
    Now they're no longer an option because of benefit mandates.
    There used to be Blue Cross Blue shield for regular medical then Major Medical for surgery etc....it was called just that
    BCBS MajorMedical, you could choose to buy one and not the other...I dont remember seeing that available lately

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    If the technology is there to save a life, should that life not be saved simply because the person can't pay for it?
    same with the technology to grow food? Or create safe ,drinkable water? The technology is there, it still requires labor and other resources to aquire it, just as health care does. I fail to see your point.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    There used to be Blue Cross Blue shield for regular medical then Major Medical for surgery etc....it was called just that
    BCBS MajorMedical, you could choose to buy one and not the other...I dont remember seeing that available lately
    They can't legally sell it and you can't legally buy it.

    Every state has some level of benefit mandate, including prenatal care for men.
    (Men can't get pregnant, but you still have to buy into that pool.)

    If anyone believes that our current medical system is "free market" I got news...
    Different trade groups have gamed the system in their favor.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    same with the technology to grow food? Or create safe ,drinkable water? The technology is there, it still requires labor and other resources to aquire it, just as health care does. I fail to see your point.
    Like I said, if the person is working and therefore contributing to society, they should have to worry about finding money to pay for basic life necessities.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Like I said, if the person is working and therefore contributing to society, they should have to worry about finding money to pay for basic life necessities.
    without government intrusion in our money, and our medicine, health care costs wouldn't of ramped up so astronomically anyway.

    and even in spite of all that government intrusion, mankind is still evolving and improving health care and other technologies.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post

    and even in spite of all that government intrusion, mankind is still evolving and improving health care and other technologies.

    Thanxs in part to the NIH.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    without government intrusion in our money, and our medicine, health care costs wouldn't of ramped up so astronomically anyway.
    And government wouldn't of gotten involved if there wasn't a profit motive in the first place. Blame Nixon for the establishment of our current health care system.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    And government wouldn't of gotten involved if there wasn't a profit motive in the first place. Blame Nixon for the establishment of our current health care system.
    Profit is a two way street.
    One side profits in dollars, the other profits in improved health.
    It's merely an exchange of value.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Profit is a two way street.
    One side profits in dollars, the other profits in improved health.
    It's merely an exchange of value.
    Its only an exchange of value if someone isn't trying to gouge.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Its only an exchange of value if someone isn't trying to gouge.
    Gouging is a subjective term.
    Most of the time, the perception that someone is being gouged, has no relation to the facts of the situation.
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