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    Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common - Yahoo! News

    The Daily Caller set off the outrage with an article Monday about Common's scheduled appearance Wednesday at an "Evening of Poetry."

    "Oh lovely, White House," the former Alaska governor tweeted with a link to Daily Caller's write-up. That story contrasted Common's widely circulated spoken word piece criticizing police, "Letter to the Law," to a poem written by 19th-century poet Emily Dickinson.

    At issue are controversial and violent lyrics such as a reference to former president George W. Bush in "Letter to the Law:"

    Burn a Bush cuz for peace he no push no but-ton. Killing over oil and grease, no weapons of destruc-tion.

    Common, who performed the piece on Def Poetry Jam, also references being armed with an Uzi in battles with police.
    I always find it interesting that the 'real'-America Palin represents.... you know... white middle class right wing protestant America... has absolutely no problem with people like Bruce Springsteen, Johnny Cash, Eazy-E, Kid Rock, Britney Spears, Jhonny Ramone etc being used by the GOP in some form or manner. However, the minute the White House invites what is considered to be one of the most socially conscious rappers in the industry to an event, then it's subject for criticism. It's because of things like this that it's good to be a leftist. You don't get bogged down in bull**** culture wars.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

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    I always find it interesting that the 'real'-America Palin represents.... you know... white middle class right wing protestant America... has absolutely no problem with people like Bruce Springsteen, Johnny Cash, Eazy-E, Kid Rock, Britney Spears, Jhonny Ramone etc being used by the GOP in some form or manner. However, the minute the White House invites what is considered to be one of the most socially conscious rappers in the industry to an event, then it's subject for criticism. It's because of things like this that it's good to be a leftist. You don't get bogged down in bull**** culture wars.
    i disagree. I think maybe the left says less, but I don't think they do less to affect culture, both positively and negatively. Popular culture aside, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    i disagree. I think maybe the left says less, but I don't think they do less to affect culture, both positively and negatively. Popular culture aside, that is.
    You can disagree all you want. The left simply does not get bogged down in culture wars. The right sees it everywhere. Somebody says 'Happy Holidays' to me during Christmas time, I don't care. I understand what they mean. Somebody decides they want to put Christ in a bucket of piss? I don't care, I find it silly but I don't care. Somebody burns a Che Guevara shirt? I could care less. When was the last time you heard of a demonstration because somebody said Atheism was bull****? Never. "Culture Wars" are a thing of the right.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You can disagree all you want. The left simply does not get bogged down in culture wars. The right sees it everywhere. Somebody says 'Happy Holidays' to me during Christmas time, I don't care. I understand what they mean. Somebody decides they want to put Christ in a bucket of piss? I don't care, I find it silly but I don't care. Somebody burns a Che Guevara shirt? I could care less. When was the last time you heard of a demonstration because somebody said Atheism was bull****? Never. "Culture Wars" are a thing of the right.
    In order to have war you have to have two sides fighting. Not everything is right in front of our faces. I would say on issues of immigration and especially on entitlements the left is just as guilty as anybody in taking actions and contriving scenarios to promote an agenda that isn't in anybody's best interest (except the candidate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    In order to have war you have to have two sides fighting. Not everything is right in front of our faces. I would say on issues of immigration and especially on entitlements the left is just as guilty as anybody in taking actions and contriving scenarios to promote an agenda that isn't in anybody's best interest (except the candidate).
    Can you show us how those are culture wars? Better yet, show us what part of your culture is related to Mexicans and welfare? As I said, the right wing sees a culture war where there is none. You fight cause you don't want Mexicans here in large numbers be they legally or illegally and consider them a threat to American culture. You fight in order to restrict people whether they are right wing or left wing from receiving a hand and perceive that as a threat to American culture. Whereas everyone else sees a political issue, the American right wing sees a culture war.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Does anyone really care what Palin says? The woman has become more of a joke/caricature...she's fighting to stay relevant.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you show us how those are culture wars? Better yet, show us what part of your culture is related to Mexicans and welfare? As I said, the right wing sees a culture war where there is none. You fight cause you don't want Mexicans here in large numbers be they legally or illegally and consider them a threat to American culture. You fight in order to restrict people whether they are right wing or left wing from receiving a hand and perceive that as a threat to American culture. Whereas everyone else sees a political issue, the American right wing sees a culture war.
    No...I don't want people here illegally. I don't care how many legal immigrants we have, or where they're from, as long as they live legally and without animosity towards other citizens.

    Also, I feel like entitlements prevent the recipients from advancing. I believe we are doing them a disservice by continuing to hand them a paltry allowance every month without encouraging their skill or educational development. I believe we are doing absolutely nothing to advance the next generation coming from entitlement families.

    The culture war exists in the fundamental difference of ideology. You're okay with handing them money, because you think it helps them. I think you're holding them down and they're too damn blind to realize it.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Common is one of the best rappers out there right now in my opinion. Yeah, rappers and most musical artists do tend to say some real **** from time to time.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    No...I don't want people here illegally. I don't care how many legal immigrants we have, or where they're from, as long as they live legally and without animosity towards other citizens.

    Also, I feel like entitlements prevent the recipients from advancing. I believe we are doing them a disservice by continuing to hand them a paltry allowance every month without encouraging their skill or educational development. I believe we are doing absolutely nothing to advance the next generation coming from entitlement families.

    The culture war exists in the fundamental difference of ideology. You're okay with handing them money, because you think it helps them. I think you're holding them down and they're too damn blind to realize it.
    Again, none of that is actually related to culture. What part of welfare and immigration relate to culture? You're proving my point. Seeing a culture war where there is none.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You can disagree all you want. The left simply does not get bogged down in culture wars. The right sees it everywhere. Somebody says 'Happy Holidays' to me during Christmas time, I don't care. I understand what they mean. Somebody decides they want to put Christ in a bucket of piss? I don't care, I find it silly but I don't care. Somebody burns a Che Guevara shirt? I could care less. When was the last time you heard of a demonstration because somebody said Atheism was bull****? Never. "Culture Wars" are a thing of the right.
    See thats where you go wrong hatuey. It is christmas and it is channukah and it is Kwanzaa and it is whatever and the people that celebrate it should be allowed to say it...its a LIBERAL thing to restrict christmas not a GOP thing, if were not going to be able to say christmas then they are all out...which is absolutely absurd.
    Putting the image of christ in a bucket of piss is offensive to those who believe in him...again thats a liberal thing ...gop does NOT do that...we have to put it where it belongs

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