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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    See thats where you go wrong hatuey. It is christmas and it is channukah and it is Kwanzaa and it is whatever and the people that celebrate it should be allowed to say it...its a LIBERAL thing to restrict christmas not a GOP thing, if were not going to be able to say christmas then they are all out...which is absolutely absurd.
    Putting the image of christ in a bucket of piss is offensive to those who believe in him...again thats a liberal thing ...gop does NOT do that...we have to put it where it belongs
    Serious...the "war on Christmas" again?....oh please....Liberals are not trying to restrict "christmas"....the only thing that liberals have fought against is the radicial right wing's attempts to force Christmas on everyone. You have ALWAYS and will ALWAYS be able to wish anyone you want Merry Friggin Christmas....you just won't be able to force others who do not wish to....to participate. Is it really that difficult?
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yeah, rappers and most musical artists do tend to say some real **** from time to time.
    Sure they do....but rarely about politics, however. Society, sure, but it is usually limited. Once it comes to "we should do this" then I can roll my eyes, because what follows is usually naive. To me, it is like getting one's philosophical advice from a comedian. Wait, that's not a good example either, because people do that too.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

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    Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common - Yahoo! News



    I always find it interesting that the 'real'-America Palin represents.... you know... white middle class right wing protestant America... has absolutely no problem with people like Bruce Springsteen, Johnny Cash, Eazy-E, Kid Rock, Britney Spears, Jhonny Ramone etc being used by the GOP in some form or manner. However, the minute the White House invites what is considered to be one of the most socially conscious rappers in the industry to an event, then it's subject for criticism. It's because of things like this that it's good to be a leftist. You don't get bogged down in bull**** culture wars.
    While I can appreciate the irony, I too would not support supposed battles with police using an "uzi". That seems like a legitimate criticism. Though, I suppose I am too much of a fascist, because I happen to like propping up our authority figures...like the somewhat cheesy, but useful "Yes We Can" song.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Palin does not even read newspapers or mags. so doubtful she is educated in reguards to poetry
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Again, none of that is actually related to culture. What part of welfare and immigration relate to culture? You're proving my point. Seeing a culture war where there is none.
    You're kidding right? Both of those issues are very much a part of the cultural make up of this country. Culture is religion and music genre alone.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    See thats where you go wrong hatuey. It is christmas and it is channukah and it is Kwanzaa and it is whatever and the people that celebrate it should be allowed to say it...its a LIBERAL thing to restrict christmas not a GOP thing, if were not going to be able to say christmas then they are all out...which is absolutely absurd.
    Putting the image of christ in a bucket of piss is offensive to those who believe in him...again thats a liberal thing ...gop does NOT do that...we have to put it where it belongs
    The War on Christmas is a joke that was created by the right.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Alright guys i'm gonna jump in here, even if the atmosphere is kind of toxic.

    Hatuey - I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think your characterizations are entirely accurate. The "Culture War" is a term that was coined to describe the differences in opinion between social liberals and social conservatives. Culture in this sense refers not just to art, music, dance, architecture, etc. Culture refers to social and societal attitudes possessed by two groups with drastically different visions. In that sense the "culture war" is very real. Both sides, not just conservatives, have often supported social legislation that infringes on the civil liberties of others. I do think some liberals, especially the ACLU-types, often take the "separation of church and state" thing a bit too far. Of course, the "culture war" issue that I feel most strongly about is gay rights and gays/women serving in the military. Those are situations in which I feel conservatives are REALLY trippin'
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Sure they do....but rarely about politics, however. Society, sure, but it is usually limited. Once it comes to "we should do this" then I can roll my eyes, because what follows is usually naive. To me, it is like getting one's philosophical advice from a comedian. Wait, that's not a good example either, because people do that too.
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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You need to listen to some Public Enemy.
    Kali kali kali. Have I told you how ****ing awesome you are??
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Palin joins those balking at White House invite to rapper Common

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You need to listen to some Public Enemy.
    Exactly what I thought when I read his comment.



    Good lord, if the president and his wife want to have satanic death metal bands to the white house to play, more power to them. It's ****ing music, and this whole controversy is painfully stupid.
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