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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    How does automated cars help reduce fossil fuel consumption and improve mass transit?
    Cali sounds like its mismanaged
    Sounds like Europe needs to raise the rates on the rail system to maintain upkeep
    Sounds like Europe is moving to cars for in-State use, but still relies on mass transit of interstate commutes.
    Automated vehicles use always attentive sensor networks surrounding the whole vehicle.
    It can allow for less traffic accidents, especially during rush hour, which not only saves lives but it also saves energy that is wasted while people wait.

    It has be proposed that a fully automated fleet of cars could increase capacity of current road networks by a factor of 3.
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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Actually, it would work great to connect Indianapolis, Ohio, Detroit, and Chicago since a lot of people already commute between these states/cities. It would have to be planned properly but it definitely worth looking into. Of course, the problem with said system, is that it probably wouldn't be very profitable considering its huge up front cost.
    It could be, but you have to have a wanting public.
    For many people, the privacy of a personal vehicle is better than any cost savings for a train.
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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Automated vehicles use always attentive sensor networks surrounding the whole vehicle.
    It can allow for less traffic accidents, especially during rush hour, which not only saves lives but it also saves energy that is wasted while people wait.

    It has be proposed that a fully automated fleet of cars could increase capacity of current road networks by a factor of 3.
    I'm not saying it isn't a good idea, I'm saying it isn't as good as boosting mass transit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It could be, but you have to have a wanting public.
    For many people, the privacy of a personal vehicle is better than any cost savings for a train.
    Until gas becomes $5/gallon on avg.

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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    I'm not saying it isn't a good idea, I'm saying it isn't as good as boosting mass transit.
    Yea but mass transit isn't something you can encourage people to use by creating it.
    "Build it and they will come" is not always true.

    Hell, we could improve energy usage by switching to scooters like Europe uses.
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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The problem is that you are taking an idea, that has potential but you're thinking that it can be used across the whole U.S.
    It can't.
    We are 35th in energy efficiency in the world. How is it most of the rest of the industrialized world can be so efficient and we can't?

    The best places for HSR are between high density cities that are close to each other.
    The current proposed rail line upgrades and HSR projects are craptacularly dumb.
    I'm not talking about HSR here, I'm talking about the the low energy efficiency of our residential, commercial, and industrial uses of energy. What enables other first world countries to be so much more energy efficient?
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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm not talking about HSR here, I'm talking about the the low energy efficiency of our residential, commercial, and industrial uses of energy. What enables other first world countries to be so much more energy efficient?
    They built their infrastructure later than we did.

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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We are 35th in energy efficiency in the world. How is it most of the rest of the industrialized world can be so efficient and we can't?



    I'm not talking about HSR here, I'm talking about the the low energy efficiency of our residential, commercial, and industrial uses of energy. What enables other first world countries to be so much more energy efficient?
    Most of Europe already had high population densities, makes it easy to implement useful mass transit services.
    On the other hand, we have been dispersed, with exceptions.
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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most of Europe already had high population densities, makes it easy to implement useful mass transit services.
    On the other hand, we have been dispersed, with exceptions.
    BINGO

    Take just the State of Texas and the cit of San Antonio.

    Travel time by car on average:
    2 Hours to Corpus Christi
    1.5 hours to Austin
    4 to Houston
    7 to Dallas (And dear all mighty that drive sucks ass)
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    They built their infrastructure later than we did.
    I thought we were the new kid on the block?
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    Re: Is Congress quietly set for a jobs compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I thought we were the new kid on the block?
    Not after WW2.

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