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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Ahh yes, self regulating, where we can have child slave labor, shirtwaist factory fires that kill hundreds of people at a time, carnival barker medicines that contain poison, trusts that fixed prices until Theodore Roosevelt broke them, chemical companies like the one in Bhopal, Pinkertons to fire on and mow down protesters, banksters who gave comfort to Nazis, and other enemies of America that killed our own soldiers with the aid they received, and at least a thousand and one more results of foxes guarding henhouses.

    Human nature being what it is, you don't want to have the foxes guarding the henhouses. Now there might be a valid debate as to how much regulation is needed, but we already went through the 1890's and similar periods in history, and we don't need those times again. Any reasonable and sane person can conclude, based on past history with unregulated markets, that a certain amount of regulation is going to be needed. If markets cannot be responsible for what they do when unregulated, then they certainly do not deserve deregulation. Again, it all boils down to human nature, and human nature is directly responsible for just about ALL of the darkest periods of American and World history.
    Versus over-regulated, where no one has a job and none of these bad things can happen.

    Invision a world where an 18 y/o enters the job market, with zero skills, or work experience and is expected to have a perfect work ethic. That's the utopia that Libbos always go on about. The utopia where the welfare class grows larger and larger every year.

    banksters who gave comfort to Nazis, and other enemies of America that killed our own soldiers with the aid they received
    BTW, this isn't historically accurate. You may want to revise your post.
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I can pretty much agree with Eliot Spitzer

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    If you want information on the best hookers in New York.........client #9 is clearly the authoritative voice in those matters..........but not so much when it comes to regulation.

    .......saying we need more regulation is akin to saying we need more government........we dont......

    We need smaller more effective government/regulations...........if any at all........
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Versus over-regulated, where no one has a job and none of these bad things can happen.

    Invision a world where an 18 y/o enters the job market, with zero skills, or work experience and is expected to have a perfect work ethic. That's the utopia that Libbos always go on about. The utopia where the welfare class grows larger and larger every year.

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    And in the ideal Conservative world, that person would have already been in the workforce for 10 years.

    I don't really believe that, but I love how ridiculous Conservatives sound talking about what liberals or Democrats think. Your hatred is so blind there is no reason behind it.

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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Quote from the article: "First, he offered, “Only government can enforce rules of integrity, transparency and fair dealing in the marketplace. Private-sector companies simply can’t do it.”

    He is joking, isn't he? Who are the only Americans permitted to engage in insider trading? Oh, right, congressmen and their aides. Transparency? Now that is a joke. It take President Obama 2.5 years to find a birth certificate and he's still concealing records. He accepts an award for transparency in secret. Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd were transparent? Get serious.

    And, for the federal government and it's politicians fair dealing is whatever you can get away with. Fair dealing with Boeing in South Carolina? Not hardly. One of the few honest statements from President Obama was, "We reward our friends and punish our enemies." That's fair dealing the Chicago way.

    Eliot Spitzer was obviously just referring to the marketplace for hookers. If the federal government had been in control his hookers would have kept their mouths shut.
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Regulation is fine, excessive however we've seen first hand what it will do to business and jobs, goodbye.
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Regulation is fine, excessive however we've seen first hand what it will do to business and jobs, goodbye.
    all it should do is increase costs, thus price, and most likely cause some hiring.....
    We all pay a little bit more to have clean air, safe water, etc. and some environmental workers get hired.
    something wrong with that?
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    all it should do is increase costs, thus price, and most likely cause some hiring.....
    We all pay a little bit more to have clean air, safe water, etc. and some environmental workers get hired.
    something wrong with that?
    Never said there was. Never said regulation in general was a bad idea. However, to the extent that they've grown and increased in the US we have seen nothing but negative things from it.
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Never said there was. Never said regulation in general was a bad idea. However, to the extent that they've grown and increased in the US we have seen nothing but negative things from it.
    Not true......
    Can you list a few negative things? Specifics, please, not generalities.
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Not true......
    Can you list a few negative things? Specifics, please, not generalities.
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    Re: The Need For Regulating Markets

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I haven't gotten botulism in over a year!!!
    Stand by, we may need to post a long list of positives to counter the list of negatives....if DontDoIt responds...
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