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Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

CARPE DIEM: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Are Almost 7 Times ExxonMobil's Profit: 42 cents vs. 7 cents for QI

Pretty short and sweet blogged article, but did anyone else find this surprising?

Not surprising, but interesting. First of all, big oil profit & taxes are unsimular items. Second, gas taxes are used to fund everything under the sun, and therein lies the reason. Third, you think gas taxes are high? Try cigarette taxes.

The California proposal, identified as Proposition 86 on the November ballot, would increase the tax on cigarettes to $3.47 a pack from the current 87 cents. Similar increases would apply to cigars and other tobacco products. That would send the average price of a pack of cigarettes from $4 to $6.55, says the California Department of Health Services.
 
I remember that your posts confuse fiction with real life. :sun

IIRC, the mayor says he is a REAL libertarian...
So he not only sets himself apart from liberals and conservatives, he sets himself apart from "unreal" libertarians....

I wish him luck with that.....fact is, we are all part of the same social construct...like it or not.
 
Got links to prove any of this?
Rising prices of energy hasn't made very many of us drive less, cool/heat our homes any less.
Energy prices for businesses are passed on to the consumer.

I think you are inventing things....

Mayor unable to prove anything he says? Is that news? I'd really love to see the crackpot reasoning how green energy which is barely more expensive (or even cheaper) then fossil is slowing the recovery when it makes up a staggeringly small amount of US power (sans nuclear).

I have mayor on ignore. He's not worth talking to.
 
More than sufficient to debunk your unsubstantiated claim. :sun

Really? Maybe you should look at actual data sometime instead of your leftwing blog sites.

You claimed:

Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
We are importing natural gas now too for the first time.

And I replied:

Not true. We've always, at least since the early 1970s, imported a small percentage of our natural gas. We import a tiny percentage even though we are the world's leading producer of natural gas. Our production has even risen over the past five years.

Actually, the U.S. proven oil and gas reserves have increased significantly in recent years.

Here's my proof. Sorry, but it's actual data from the U.S. Department of Energy rather than an obscure position paper, so you probably won't believe it......
 

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Fuel Economy of the 2001 Ford Taurus FFV

it is 19 miles per gallon. 1 gallon is 3.78 liters, and 1 mile is 1.609 km. That gives 30,57 km per gallon, which is then 8.08 km per litre... and that..is HORRIBLE fuel economy. He could save tons of money by getting a compact European car from that era. My 2000 VW Polo goes 18ish km per litre, and a modern European compact car goes far far longer than that. A modern Ford Fiesta goes 47+ miles per gallon according to Ford UK.. yes petrol version.
I've ridden in a Polo, you have to be a midget to be comfortable in one.
 
Really? Maybe you should look at actual data sometime instead of your leftwing blog sites.

You claimed:



And I replied:



Here's my proof. Sorry, but it's actual data from the U.S. Department of Energy rather than an obscure position paper, so you probably won't believe it......

I was paraphrasing Bush's Task Force Report, which I have already posted for you, which says,

"As it is, national solutions alone cannot work. Politicians still speak of U.S. energy independence, while the United States is importing more than half of its oil supplies and may soon for the first time become reliant on sources outside North America for substantial amounts of natural gas."

Your graph above seems to bear that out. Thanks! :sun
 
$4.50 gallon

$0.47 Fed/St. taxes

$0.07 Big Oil profit
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$3.96 gallon went where? Here...........

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There are people here on DP why deny a lot of easily searchable things. Honestly, the number of educated, reasonable, intelligent people here isn't a high number.

yeah, its hard being the bearer of bad news, but what you said suggests that the uneducated, unreasonable, stupid people here outnumber the rest of us....:2razz:
 
No, as a matter of fact, gas taxes don't completely pay for the construction and maintenance of roads.

"… no road pays for itself in gas taxes and fees. For example, in Houston, the 15 miles of SH 99 from I-10 to US 290 will cost $1 billion to build and maintain over its lifetime, while only generating $162 million in gas taxes. That gives a tax gap ratio of .16, which means that the real gas tax rate people would need to pay on this segment of road to completely pay for it would be $2.22 per gallon. This is just one example, but there is not one road in Texas that pays for itself based on the tax system of today. Some roads pay for about half their true cost, but most roads we have analyzed pay for considerably less. To conclude, in the SH 99 example, since the traffic volume for that road doesn't generate enough fuel tax revenue to pay for it, revenues from other parts of the state must be used to build and maintain this corridor segment. The same is true across the state, meaning that, as revealed by the tax gap analysis, overall revenues are not sufficient to meet the state’s transportation needs."
Worldchanging: Bright Green: Do Gas Taxes Cover the Costs of Roads?

What is your proposal to generate the needed revenue if not gas taxes, toll roads?

They would have if the excise taxes weren't put on budget and spent by the Govt that you seem to love. Gasoline taxes are just like SS taxes, both put on budget and spent for everything other than what they were intended to fund
 

The stimulus was the biggest middle-class tax cut in history


""the major tax cuts enacted in the 2009 economic stimulus bill actually reduced federal income taxes for tax year 2009 for 98 percent of all working families and individuals." In terms of the number of Americans who benefited, the stimulus bill was the biggest tax cut in history."



that is typical Bull**** from liberals. The tax cuts were targeted and required certain actions, they weren't the biggest middle class tax cut in history they were a welfare payment to people who didn't pay taxes and got a credit anyway. By the way I am still waiting for you to explain how you keeping more of your money is an expense to the govt?

Tax cuts

Total: $288 billion
[edit] Tax cuts for individuals

Total: $237 billion
• $116 billion: New payroll tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per couple in 2009 and 2010. Phaseout begins at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for joint filers.[29]
• $70 billion: Alternative minimum tax: a one year increase in AMT floor to $70,950 for joint filers for 2009.[29]
• $15 billion: Expansion of child tax credit: A $1,000 credit to more families (even those that do not make enough money to pay income taxes).
• $14 billion: Expanded college credit to provide a $2,500 expanded tax credit for college tuition and related expenses for 2009 and 2010. The credit is phased out for couples making more than $160,000.
• $6.6 billion: Homebuyer credit: $8,000 refundable credit for all homes bought between 1/1/2009 and 12/1/2009 and repayment provision repealed for homes purchased in 2009 and held more than three years. This only applies to first-time homebuyers.[41]
• $4.7 billion: Excluding from taxation the first $2,400 a person receives in unemployment compensation benefits in 2009.
• $4.7 billion: Expanded earned income tax credit to increase the earned income tax credit — which provides money to low income workers — for families with at least three children.
• $4.3 billion: Home energy credit to provide an expanded credit to homeowners who make their homes more energy-efficient in 2009 and 2010. Homeowners could recoup 30 percent of the cost up to $1,500 of numerous projects, such as installing energy-efficient windows, doors, furnaces and air conditioners.
• $1.7 billion: for deduction of sales tax from car purchases, not interest payments phased out for incomes above $250,000.

Bush Tax cuts

Between 2001 and 2003, the Bush administration instituted a federal tax cut for all taxpayers. Among other changes, the lowest income tax rate was lowered from 15% to 10%, the 27% rate went to 25%, the 30% rate went to 28%, the 35% rate went to 33%, and the top marginal tax rate went from 39.6% to 35%.[3] In addition, the child tax credit went from $500 to $1000, and the "marriage penalty" was reduced. Since the cuts were implemented as part of the annual congressional budget resolution, which protected the bill from filibusters, numerous amendments, and more than 20 hours of debate, it had to include a sunset clause. Unless congress passes legislation making the tax cuts permanent, they will expire in 2011.
 
I was paraphrasing Bush's Task Force Report, which I have already posted for you, which says,



Your graph above seems to bear that out. Thanks! :sun

So, "substantial" amounts of natural gas translates in your mind to most of our natural gas needs ???

And you still haven't admitted that you were wrong when you claimed we started importing natural gas only recently.

The graph shows we imported less than 4,000,000 million cubic feet of gas in 2009 while we produced more than 23,000,000 million cubic feet. That's almost 6 times more production than import.
 
Thanks for doing what you do so well, providing your unsubstantiated opinion! :sun

Unsubstantiated ???? He provided a detailed list of the Obama tax cuts. If you don't agree, state why and give us the data. If you can't, admit you were wrong and move on.
 
Thanks for doing what you do so well, providing your unsubstantiated opinion! :sun

What you do is ignore content and continue to post op ed pieces from leftwing sources that support your own ideology. I posted the line items in the budget that show SS and excise taxes on budget. Since both are supposed to be targeted for Highways and SS why are they on budget? Keep sreading your leftwing rhetoric and ideology while ignoring exactly who you are
 
What you do is ignore content and continue to post op ed pieces from leftwing sources that support your own ideology. I posted the line items in the budget that show SS and excise taxes on budget. Since both are supposed to be targeted for Highways and SS why are they on budget? Keep sreading your leftwing rhetoric and ideology while ignoring exactly who you are

Certainly, if it is undocumented, unsourced, and incomplete, as was yours. Take a step outside to look around the world at the gas prices that are mostly double what we pay in the US. The time to act was 40 years ago when we passed peak oil in this country. We had plenty of time and resources to develop alternatives to foreign oill that were squandered on a quick buck, so I have little sympathy for those that bitch and moan now that its finally time to pay the piper.

Want to cut your gasoline cost? Drive less......ride a bike.......walk. :sun
 
Certainly, if it is undocumented, unsourced, and incomplete, as was yours. Take a step outside to look around the world at the gas prices that are mostly double what we pay in the US. The time to act was 40 years ago when we passed peak oil in this country. We had plenty of time and resources to develop alternatives to foreign oill that were squandered on a quick buck, so I have little sympathy for those that bitch and moan now that its finally time to pay the piper.

Want to cut your gasoline cost? Drive less......ride a bike.......walk. :sun

What country in the world has 310 million people, the land mass that this country has and higher gasoline prices? What isn't undocumented are the line items on the budget which show SS and Excise taxes from gasoline. Why are those on budget and thus used for everything other than what they were intended for?

I have little sympathy as well but mostly for liberals who complain about and demonize profits oil companies make and bemone the fact that the govt. isn't getting more money. By the way I am still waiting for you to explain who you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the Federal Govt?
 
What country in the world has 310 million people, the land mass that this country has and higher gasoline prices?

What on earth, pray tell, does population and land mass have to do with gas prices? LOL!


What isn't undocumented are the line items on the budget which show SS and Excise taxes from gasoline. Why are those on budget and thus used for everything other than what they were intended for?

You tell me? It isn't something Obama did.


By the way I am still waiting for you to explain who you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the Federal Govt?

You would have to understand why our forefathers created the progressive tax to understand why our tax cuts for the wealthy are an expense to to the rest of the taxpayers.
 
You would have to understand why our forefathers created the progressive tax to understand why our tax cuts for the wealthy are an expense to to the rest of the taxpayers.

Are you saying "forefathers" as in the founding fathers or simply as those who were before us but after the founding fathers?
 
Catawba;1059477290]What on earth, pray tell, does population and land mass have to do with gas prices? LOL!

Just as I thought, you don't have a clue how taxes are paid and collected. ALL drivers pay taxes when they buy gasoline, the size of the country means more driving and more taxes, and thus more tax revenue is collected than in other countries.

You tell me? It isn't something Obama did.

No, it isn't something Obama did, but it is something that Obama like all other Presidents did, used money for roads and bridges along with SS revenue for purposes other than intended.

You would have to understand why our forefathers created the progressive tax to understand why our tax cuts for the wealthy are an expense to to the rest of the taxpayers.

Our Founding fathers didn't create the Progressive tax system nor did our forefathers expect 47% of the population to not pay any Federal Income Taxes. Further our Founding Fathers never believed personal income was an expense to the govt. Still no answer to the question, how is you keeping more of your income an expense to the Federal Govt?
 
ALL drivers pay taxes when they buy gasoline, the size of the country means more driving and more taxes, and thus more tax revenue is collected than in other countries.

Is that so? Really? Don't suppose you have some proof that we pay more tax on gasoline than other countries? What accounts for their doubled price then in your world?
 
Is that so? Really? Don't suppose you have some proof that we pay more tax on gasoline than other countries? What accounts for their doubled price then in your world?

We don't pay more individual gasoline taxes than other countries, just have more people paying a lower amount. The excise taxes collected by the govt. are shown on the U.S. Treasury website. Why don't you familiarize yourself with the site so you stop making a fool of yourself. Like all liberals the percentage collected is more important than the amount, right? Still waiting for you to explain how you keeping more of what you earn isn't an expense to the govt. but the rich keeping more of what they earn is an expense? Keep running
 
Just as I thought, you don't have a clue how taxes are paid and collected. ALL drivers pay taxes when they buy gasoline, the size of the country means more driving and more taxes, and thus more tax revenue is collected than in other countries.

While more tax revenue is collected, it could just as well be less, even 1/2 less than other countries. Government decides based on our situation (I assume), and not concerned with other countries.

No, it isn't something Obama did, but it is something that Obama like all other Presidents did, used money for roads and bridges along with SS revenue for purposes other than intended.

I would think gasoline taxes should be used for transportation. Of course, SS should be used for SS.

Our Founding fathers didn't create the Progressive tax system nor did our forefathers expect 47% of the population to not pay any Federal Income Taxes. Further our Founding Fathers never believed personal income was an expense to the govt. Still no answer to the question, how is you keeping more of your income an expense to the Federal Govt?

When the US is forking out billions for interest on debt, the sooner we pay down debt with your income, the sooner government pays less expenses. The rich having unspent money creates more expense, and related costs to borrow for boosting the economy. Having billions in stocks setting in safe deposit boxes does not help the American economy, because it is not available for business or house loans, etc. In that regard, having the rich pay it, who have the money, it better than having the poor pay it, who doesn't.
 
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When the US is forking out billions for interest on debt, the sooner we pay down debt with your income, the sooner government pays less expenses.

LOL, so where are the assurance that more revenue going to the govt. are going to be used to pay down the debt? You willingly accept what you are told by this govt. and totally ignore history. We have a 3.7 trillion dollar budget and a projected 1.6 trillion dollar debt so tell me how much of that budget is interest expense and if eliminated what will that do to the deficit?
 
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