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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It has been found that the higher the cost of cigerettes, the more people quit.
    Not the proper sphere of government.

    And before you begin the long boring lecture about the health expenses to the public by tobacco related illnesses, guess what?

    Providing health care isn't the proper sphere of government.

    Here's another thing:

    Dictating automotive fuel efficiencies isn't the proper role of government, either. The government is currently in the business of collecting taxes from the gasoline prices it's helped to inflate by arbitrarily and unreasonably denying drilling permits to domestic oil companies, and propagandizing the "need" for it to control fuel efficiencies by legislative fiat because the price of fuel is being driven by despot laden oil from overseas, even though the United States has the largest known reserves of oil on the planet.

    Drilling domestically is going to be what keeps Obama out of office in 2013.

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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I was not aware of this. Thanks! This makes me question even more why we continue to give huge subsidies to the oil companies who produce very few new jobs in this country.
    The oil companies would produce more jobs in THIS country if they were allowed to drill in THIS country. Funny thing about oil jobs.

    The jobs are where the oil is. Can't outsource that.

    But, since the Democrats don't want to create new jobs, they're opposed to domestic drilling.

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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It has been found that the higher the cost of cigerettes, the more people quit. I think that is a good thing. I have not heard of protest by the middle class of an increase in cigerette taxes have you? Is there a Tobbaco Leaf Party I have missed somewhere along the way?
    It is not the job of government to play Mommy Dearest. Tobacco is a legal product and if someone wants to smoke, that is their business.

    Government should get the flock out of our lives. We are adults, have the right to choose.

    Perhaps they should abolish abortions based on your logic alone, for it has proven to increase the chance of suicide and depression, and reducing both would be a good thing don't you think?

    On the same line of thinking, having unprotected sex has proven to increase the chances of death from HIV/AIDS, and then there is a whole host of STD's. Perhaps we should have government in our bedrooms too to reduce the chances of HIV/AIDS and STD's for reducing both would be a good thing don't you think?

    Don't you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Not the proper sphere of government.

    Here's another thing:

    Dictating automotive fuel efficiencies isn't the proper role of government, either.
    It also increases the chances of death, for cars need be built lighter, which means the likelihood of dying in a collision increases too. This hits the average folks the hardest as they're the ones buying the ultra-lite shoe boxes.

    Once again, government screws the masses... and for what? That religion known as Global Warming... ugh.

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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What is your proposal to generate the needed revenue if not gas taxes, toll roads?
    I believe the original intent was to point out that the profit the company makes isn't really all that much, especially when you look at what the government makes per gallon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't know about you but my taxes went down under this administration.
    But what happened to your rates? And which taxes went down? Many different taxes went up, but people only seem to focus on the Income Tax as the indicator.

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    No, not at all. I don't think the figure .07 cents is correct. Big Oil talks "OPEC" costs per barrel, but 1/3 of the barrels comes from your own US oil on leased federal land, virtually free. It only costs .34 cents to refine a gallon of gasoline from 2 gals of crude. The by-products profits from the 2nd gallon pay for all of refining costs, plus more. ie. plastic additives, gas additives, motor oil & lube oils, pesticides, etc.

    Note: Keep that in mind when discussing Nationalizing US oil and selling for $1.00 .
    Where do you get your .34 figure from? Does that include facility rent/mortgage, maintenance, worker's pay/benefits, insurance, regulation compliance cost and a bevy of other costs/fees that the company must pay out that become part of the price of gas in the end. Oh yeah and all the taxes paid along the way as well. They're tucked in on the final price as well BEFORE it gets to the pump and has the gas tax added on.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    going green is bad? going clean is bad? Only in Texas.....
    It can be when the "green" alternative is way more costly than the current, and it creates less jobs. Green is a good goal and one we should be striving to reach, but forcing it too early before it is really ready to help the economy as well as the environment could cause the loss of both.

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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    It can be when the "green" alternative is way more costly than the current, and it creates less jobs. Green is a good goal and one we should be striving to reach, but forcing it too early before it is really ready to help the economy as well as the environment could cause the loss of both.
    Forcing it too early? Green is too green, not ripe yet?
    Only a small part of green technology is new....most of it is very mature. We already know how to increase efficiencies in our buildings, but only a few builders/contractors are doing it. Every new building should have to meet energy use standards as listed in Architecture 2030. No new home should be built without an energy review where a TRAINED building codes officer sits down with the buyer and explains how a few changes can make a big difference in energy bills.
    Picture this, Logan, Utah and the communities around it enjoy mild summers and thanks to its elevation, cool nights during those summers. It is "high desert". Most of the older homes have NO air conditioners, many have evaporative cooling.
    Most of the newer homes have AC, and the larger ones have multiple AC units.
    Several have way too many windows facing east and west, for the view.
    Why are we building energy hog buildings at a time when energy is a big issue?
    That trend is reversing, according to articles I have read. But it needs to reverse a bit quicker.
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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Its always fun to discriminate against people because of what they do!

    You say you support equality, but you don't mean it.
    My last 3 years in the Navy, early 74 to mid 77, was spent working in a poorly ventilated building, with a lot of smokers. After work, I would take my outer clothing off in the garage, and head for the shower. I had strep throat several times a year for those 3 years.
    My exit physical chest xray showed the results in my lungs, the doctor told me to quit smoking.... When I told him I don't smoke, he asked me how long ago I quit. Told him I never started, then explained the second hand smoke situation.
    Thank you, smokers, for being selfish and ignorant....
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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    It's not so bad anymore. Transfer pricing is nowhere near the level of abuse it used to be since the IRS can basically adjust the transfer pricing however it wants. That cut down on a lot of abuse. That said, there is a big demand for transfer pricing work. But it's more to keep the IRS off their back by showing solid reasoning assigning value and profit to locations based on services and manufacturing done at such locations. Amending a big oil firm's 1120 return for transfer pricing can easily cost millions. Even defending the audit successfully with no additional tax is costly. Better to just pay to get it done right and acceptable to the IRS. I know a girl who's sole job is transfer pricing at a big 4 accounting firm.

    As for subsidies, I'm for cutting them as they are basically welfare, but at the same time cutting them will cause gas prices to increase.
    There are people here on DP who deny that the oil companies get subsidies....
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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We are the only society on the planet that wastes? I'm sure you jest.
    not what he said, surely you are misquoting him on purpose...
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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Clearly the government must do something about this.

    It must stop using unionized road crews.
    already being done, by people who speak Spanish well, and english poorly....has the price per mile of new roads gone down?
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    Re: Gasoline Taxes Per Gallon Nearly 7 Times Exxon Mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Going green is bad. Just in case you missed it, the rising energy costs are shutting down the imaginary recovery. The energy prices are rising because the so-called "green" energy not only lacks the maturity to do the job, it's never going to fit in a gas tank.

    When the economy is ready for this green nonsense, the respective industries won't need money stolen from taxpayers to be profitable.
    Got links to prove any of this?
    Rising prices of energy hasn't made very many of us drive less, cool/heat our homes any less.
    Energy prices for businesses are passed on to the consumer.

    I think you are inventing things....
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