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    Re: PSN outage

    Anon was involved in a separate spate of attacks against Sony and Sony officials are complaining that they where so preoccupied guarding themselves from it, that it allowed these guys to launch a major assault with Sony not noticing until the last minute. Remember, they didn't just attack the PSN, they attacked SOE too which is a network for MMORPG games (that's another 22 million users).

    Anon is denying it but Sony is claiming they found a file on their that said "Anonymous", probably just an attempt to frame them since it would be stupid to leave that behind and then deny it.

    Sony took the network down out of their own will yes, this wasn't a DoS attack. They are going to investigate the damage and beef up security. I also heard that the hackers will target the Sony PS website in the coming days and post our details online.
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    Re: PSN outage

    I'm just disappointed in Sony and the hacker community. Sony should receive its just criticism for being idiotic in security measures. The latter's response seems to be a mix of disgust at the actual harm it has caused people or apologetic behavior for the actions of hackers. It is good to see some in the hacking community have some common decency.

    That being said, I hope some in Anon realize they should grow up and see that just because they do not do these sort of things that another party did to Sony, that their actions are still not justified. I mostly think of Anon as a group of people who should have had their fathers discipline them more or had someone put them down a peg or two.
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    Re: PSN outage

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Playstation has already admitted that Playstation themselves took the services down. If you read the email PSN sent out its clear the 3 major credit checkers getting TONS of traffic because of this. PSN is now working with "an unnamed security firm" more closely to get things handled. I want people with oversight to take a closer sniff to make sure an insider in Playstation isnt just selling credit info with some guy that hacked their website as their scapegoat. I wonder if sony is maybe making a fat insurance profit off all this?

    I think corporations have plans in order so that when they get attacked by a hacker they make the problem look bigger than it really is as lay more blame on people that are hostile against them.

    Maybe the goal here was a false flag attack to piss anon off so they really will start attacking sony harder? Someone bust out the scooby snacks and make sure a parking spot is open for the Mystery Machine. I smell a puzzle that needs a'solvin.
    Sony has always said that they took down PSN and SoE online games. In fact, trying to log in gets you a message explaining just such with links for more information.

    The security firms are not unnamed. They are Data Forte, Guidance Software and Protiviti. The last two may have been at the request/advice of Visa/Mastercard.

    There is no way Sony is exaggerating this. Every day down is costing them millions.
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    Re: PSN outage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sony has always said that they took down PSN and SoE online games. In fact, trying to log in gets you a message explaining just such with links for more information.

    The security firms are not unnamed. They are Data Forte, Guidance Software and Protiviti. The last two may have been at the request/advice of Visa/Mastercard.

    There is no way Sony is exaggerating this. Every day down is costing them millions.
    Me and you understand this. But many still think it was anon that seiged the servers and brought them down. (maybe heading surfers are to blame?)

    It the first email I got they where very broad and didnt mention the security firms. They just said "We brought the service down. We are working with a recognized security firm." (I was guessing Homeland Security) Maybe they where refering to the firms you mentioned and maybe not.

    Hackers are bad. Fact of the matter is SONY cant keep their **** up.
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    Re: PSN outage

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Me and you understand this. But many still think it was anon that seiged the servers and brought them down. (maybe heading surfers are to blame?)

    It the first email I got they where very broad and didnt mention the security firms. They just said "We brought the service down. We are working with a recognized security firm." (I was guessing Homeland Security) Maybe they where refering to the firms you mentioned and maybe not.

    Hackers are bad. Fact of the matter is SONY cant keep their **** up.
    Sony intentionally took the **** down to prevent further security breeches. This is completely different from "can't keep their **** up". SOE has been running online servers almost continually up since 1999.

    The fact that some people are poorly informed about this is not Sony's fault. All the information is readily and easily available.
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    Re: PSN outage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sony intentionally took the **** down to prevent further security breeches. This is completely different from "can't keep their **** up". SOE has been running online servers almost continually up since 1999.

    The fact that some people are poorly informed about this is not Sony's fault. All the information is readily and easily available.
    It must have been one hell of an attack for them to keep it down this long. I'm just glad I didn't put a credit card on my PSN account.
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    Pee Wee Herman isn't losing any playtime because of this. Of course, his play station is his right hand.
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    Re: PSN outage

    I actually am a veteran tech journalist writing for several blogs and websites (mostly pertaining to Xbox though) and since the beginning of this entire thing I have said this. Sony went through this entire process as a big mean corporation and didn't do it quietly in a way that Microsoft or Apple for example would have done it. It originated with a guy that just wanted to give PS3 the functionality PS3 used to have. Sony decided they would threaten anyone that went to this guys youtube page to see how to do this by getting their IP addresses from YouTube with legal action. A huge stepping of rights and I figured this would happen. I just didn't realize Sony had such a piss poor network, no security, no firewalls, etc to impede such attacks. **** like this is just another example of why you pay $50 a year for Xbox Live. You get a high quality, consistent service, where your information and your network is thoroughly protected. It doesn't help that PSN is on sockets that most of the other internet is on and Microsoft uses a lot of proprietary and closed networks that a simple Orbital Ion Cannon DDoS attack couldn't do. I've gone onto forums that Anonymous frequents and begged users there to try the same **** on XBL, they simply can't. It's impossible. Sony deserves what happened to them for being a prick corporation and for their ****ty service. America.
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    Re: PSN outage

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I actually am a veteran tech journalist writing for several blogs and websites (mostly pertaining to Xbox though) and since the beginning of this entire thing I have said this. Sony went through this entire process as a big mean corporation and didn't do it quietly in a way that Microsoft or Apple for example would have done it. It originated with a guy that just wanted to give PS3 the functionality PS3 used to have. Sony decided they would threaten anyone that went to this guys youtube page to see how to do this by getting their IP addresses from YouTube with legal action. A huge stepping of rights and I figured this would happen. I just didn't realize Sony had such a piss poor network, no security, no firewalls, etc to impede such attacks. **** like this is just another example of why you pay $50 a year for Xbox Live. You get a high quality, consistent service, where your information and your network is thoroughly protected. It doesn't help that PSN is on sockets that most of the other internet is on and Microsoft uses a lot of proprietary and closed networks that a simple Orbital Ion Cannon DDoS attack couldn't do. I've gone onto forums that Anonymous frequents and begged users there to try the same **** on XBL, they simply can't. It's impossible. Sony deserves what happened to them for being a prick corporation and for their ****ty service. America.
    So much wrong information here. You complain that Sony went after a guy for doing something that could threaten network security and could create unfair advantage for online gaming, and then you complain that Sony did not do enough to stop people messing with their online service. Furthermore, nothing Sony did justifies in any way shape or form an attack like this. You cannot commit criminal acts as a form of dispute, as those involved will find out. They may be good, but even the US government is working on this.

    Anon is a bunch of assholes. Sony may be too, I do not know. Personally I have never had a problem with them despite playing SoE games since 2000. Sony may and probably did have issues with their security. None of that justifies what was done, and what was done was a pure criminal act that affects millions who have never done jack **** to Anon.

    If you think what Sony was doing by regulating what can be used to access their online service, you take it to court, you do not hack them, you do not steal account and credit card information, you do not act like Anon did here(assuming it actually was them, and right now it appears some in Anon are turning on others and may already be giving investigators info, so it is likely Anon did do this). Blaming the victim is a weak excuse.
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