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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    I know. A balanced budget, low taxes, representatives held accountable. How gestapo. Duh.
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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    You can spin it anyway you want...Christies numbers have been falling, there was a poll that im looking for last week that showed women view him in the negatives and men are split 51% for and 47 against....these numbers reflect a HUGE drop in popularity for him and his policies since even 3 months ago. The more he runs his mouth the more people are realizing its the same song on a different day over and over again....Women outnumber men in NJ and OUTVOTE them...Rick Scott in florida is dropping fast also.
    Time will tell but this hardliner teaparty crap will not be around longterm, in my opinion, they are going to turn the mass's off..WE WANT WHAT WE WANT AND WE WONT COMPROMISE all that rhetoric does is make the other side dig in and then nothing gets done. Teaparty is no different than Pelosi and her house they are just on two different sides of the spectrum but still BOTH THE SAME in their gestapo demands
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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I know. A balanced budget, low taxes, representatives held accountable. How gestapo. Duh.
    No reverend thats not the problem at all. The gestapo is the constant Rhetoric that WE WANT WHAT WE WANT AND THERE WILL BE NO COMPROMISE. The problem is that all the teaparty backed Govs first thing they did was give tax cuts to the wealthiest and corporations then second thing they did was ATTACK the working class and blame them for all the deficits. If you think that is going to float in the longterm ok...I do not. There are far more working class americans, the mass's awaken slowly.
    Giving continuous tax cuts at the state level to only the richest citizens and corps..then extending the bush tax cuts that mostly benefit the rich...then ryans plan which is a candy store of HUGE tax breaks for the rich on the backs of the middle class..
    THAT IS CLASS WARFARE and its being waged by the teaparty. This reverse robin hood Ryan take from the middle class and give to the rich is NOT DEBT reduction...its a tax reduction plan for the super rich.

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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No reverend thats not the problem at all. The gestapo is the constant Rhetoric that WE WANT WHAT WE WANT AND THERE WILL BE NO COMPROMISE. The problem is that all the teaparty backed Govs first thing they did was give tax cuts to the wealthiest and corporations then second thing they did was ATTACK the working class and blame them for all the deficits. If you think that is going to float in the longterm ok...I do not. There are far more working class americans, the mass's awaken slowly.
    Giving continuous tax cuts at the state level to only the richest citizens and corps..then extending the bush tax cuts that mostly benefit the rich...then ryans plan which is a candy store of HUGE tax breaks for the rich on the backs of the middle class..
    THAT IS CLASS WARFARE and its being waged by the teaparty. This reverse robin hood Ryan take from the middle class and give to the rich is NOT DEBT reduction...its a tax reduction plan for the super rich.


    How simplisticly partisan of you.

    If nj does not give a tax break panasoni moves to pa instead of newark. Newark also gave a tax break, corey booker mayor, democrat


    Also while complaining about this nonsense perhaps you can tell me how you feel abou talf loans er i mean gifts of the tarp money to wives of big bankers, or the amount of bailout money given to GE.


    Please obama has handed money to colorations wheras hristie simply lowered taxes to entice businesses to stay or come to jersey.
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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Try to increase the so-called millionaire's tax, he [christie] warned, and all those business owners who hire people will flee to more tax-friendly environs. "This is a tax which has proven to be destructive to job creation in states, and that's why states all over the country are rejecting it," Christie said.

    With a millionaire's tax, your son or niece will never get a job in this tough economy, Christie reasoned at a recent town-hall meeting, because "the long, ugly, hairy hand of Trenton is coming to take that [hiring] money."

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    Charles Varner, a doctoral candidate in sociology at Princeton University, and Cristobal Young, an assistant professor of sociology at Stanford University, were given special access to New Jersey tax returns to determine the effect of the millionaire's tax, which Gov. Jim McGreevey approved in 2004. They studied tax filings from before and after the tax was instituted, and compared the affected "millionaires" (those earning more than $500,000) to the slightly less rich ($200,000 and above).

    "We estimated that 70 tax filers, single or families, moved because of the tax over the four-year period," Varner said in an interview.

    That was just 0.04 percent of the millionaires in New Jersey. And retirees or those living off their investments - not business owners - are most likely to leave, the study found.
    Christie discounts Princeton study on "millionaire's tax" | Philadelphia Inquirer | 04/21/2011

    appears they are both right
    christie overestimates the number of existing businesses which would leave due to the millionaire excise tax. seems only those who cut coupons actually leave due to the added taxes

    but christie is likely very correct about attracting new business
    while relocating an established business is often a cost prohibitive process, selecting a location other than NJ to avoid high taxes is not unlikely
    each additional tax burden on a prospective business makes NJ less attractive to business (and wealthy) interests otherwise interested in a NJ operation

    this is the unvarnished reality that christie is willing to speak. but the truth is also a difficult thing for taxpayers to be willing to hear

    if christie could learn to be more diplomatic in making his (often truthful) case, he could be a viable presidential contender
    if he insists on being his caustic self, not so much
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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We will find out in 2012 who is in fantasy land and who is not.
    You mean like the Democrats who said they'd sweep the 2010 midterms found out? :@catawba

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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Christie discounts Princeton study on "millionaire's tax" | Philadelphia Inquirer | 04/21/2011

    appears they are both right
    christie overestimates the number of existing businesses which would leave due to the millionaire excise tax. seems only those who cut coupons actually leave due to the added taxes

    but christie is likely very correct about attracting new business
    while relocating an established business is often a cost prohibitive process, selecting a location other than NJ to avoid high taxes is not unlikely
    each additional tax burden on a prospective business makes NJ less attractive to business (and wealthy) interests otherwise interested in a NJ operation

    this is the unvarnished reality that christie is willing to speak. but the truth is also a difficult thing for taxpayers to be willing to hear

    if christie could learn to be more diplomatic in making his (often truthful) case, he could be a viable presidential contender
    if he insists on being his caustic self, not so much



    He's from NJ, he's not used to catering to folks with tender feelings.
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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The fact is a simple one: in a two person race - 43% loses each and every time.
    Tell that to...
    10 Presidents Who Won with Less Than 50% of the Vote | Top 10 Lists | TopTenz.net
    John Quincy Adams 30.5% of the popular vote in 1824
    Abraham Lincoln 39.8% of the popular vote in 1860
    Woodrow Wilson 41.9% of the popular vote in 1912

    and...

    William Clinton 42.9% of the popular vote in 1992
    Once again, you prove to the board you haven't a clue about a word you say... or you're simply a liar hoping no one checks his statements out.

    Which is it Hay? :

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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    He's from NJ, he's not used to catering to folks with tender feelings.
    Must be why I like him...lol. I spent the first 35 years of my life in NJ, and I'm there weekly now.

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    Re: Christie favorables are dropping

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Tell that to...
    10 Presidents Who Won with Less Than 50% of the Vote | Top 10 Lists | TopTenz.net


    Once again, you prove to the board you haven't a clue about a word you say... or you're simply a liar hoping no one checks his statements out.

    Which is it Hay? :

    Why do you insult me and attack me?

    Why do you reprint my comment and completely ignore the copntent of it in a partisan desire to attack me and ridicule me?

    Obviously the answer is because you have identified me as the enemy.

    Here was my statement:
    The fact is a simple one: in a two person race - 43% loses each and every time.
    You then point to four US presidential elecions: 1824, 1860, 1912, and 1992 in which somebody won in the 40th%.

    In the 1824 Election there were four candidates who got significant votes making it possible for a minority leader to win: Adams, Jackson, Crawford & Clay. FOUR - not a two person race.
    In the 1860 Election there were four candidates who got significant votes making it possible for a minority leader to win: Lincoln, Douglas, Berckenridge & Bell. FOUR - not a two person race.
    In the 1912 Election there were four candidates who got significant votes making it possible for a minority leader to win: Wilson, Roosevelt, Taft & Debs. FOUR - not a two person race.
    In the 1992 Election there were three candidates who got significant votes makign it possible for a minority leader to win: Clinton, Bush & Perot. THREE - not a two person race.

    So in your opinion I do not have a clue.
    In your opinion I am a liar.
    In your opinion I hope nobody checks out my statement.

    All in a desire to defend Walkers low numbers and attack me.

    If I do not have a clue - where does that now put you with the above evidence that you could have discovered yourself before attacking me?
    If I am a liar - what does that make you with the above evidence being consistent with my original post about a two person contest?
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