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    Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    Who is Obama, a closet Muslim or nevertheless a Christian, nobody ever heard that he has condemned persecution of Christian or Burning of Bibles, although he has an immense respect to Islam. "Thanks" Obama the entirely World is laughing and joking about the U.S. and its too politically correct President, sad that America is gradually losing its Christian and Moral values.Who can still take America seriously if it burn the Holy Book of its Founders, but has enormous respect to the Book of its enemies.

    F. Scott Fitzgerald said that the ability to hold two contradictory ideas in the mind simultaneously was a mark of genius.

    If that were true, the U.S. government must be full of geniuses. Consider: it was just a week or two ago that everyone from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., sort of, SC) to Gen. David Petraeus and Sec. of State Hillary Clinton loudly condemned the Rev. Terry Jones for presiding over his Koran barbecue. Burning a holy book, you see, was hateful, intolerant, and extremely disrespectful.

    That’s how General Petraeus put it: “hateful, intolerant, extremely disrespectful.”

    For his part, Sen. Lindsey wondered aloud on Face the Nation about how the government could “push back” against individuals who did such things. “Free speech is a great idea,” he said, “but we’re in a war.” Ann Barnhardt did for Lindsey Graham what Apollo did for Marsyas, and I hope that who ever runs against him in 2014 plays his statement and Ms. Barnhardt’s video again and again and again.

    But back to the question of genius. The U.S. government under Barack Obama is deeply committed to battling any belittlement, criticism, or questioning of Islam. (“I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States,” he said, “to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”)

    At the same time, however, it is OK, in the Obama regime [SEE BELOW FOR AN UPDATE], for the U.S. government to burn Bibles. Yes, that’s right. Bibles were sent to U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. But the U.S. government determined that the presence of Bibles in this “devoutly Muslim country” might inflame the natives. So they burned them. Why did they burn them? Because it is military policy to burn its trash.

    So, the Bibles, according to U.S. policy, are trash, garbage, and it’s OK to burn them.

    When it comes to the Koran, however, an official Department of Defense memo specifies a rather different procedure. Item 4, “Handling”:

    1. Clean gloves will be put on in full view of the detainees prior to handling.
    2. Two hands will be used at all times when handling the Koran in manner signaling respect and reverence. Care should be used so that the right hand is the primary one used to manipulate any part of the Koran due to the cultural association with the left hand. Handle the Koran as if it were a fragile piece of delicate art.

    Isn’t that nice? Handle it “as if it were a fragile piece of delicate art.” But burn the Bible because it is just part of your trash.
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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    I agree with Patreaus...the man's actions were "hateful, intolerant, extremely disrespectful."

    So are most actions of burning a bible.

    They should both be legal to do though.
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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    "The military must burn it's trash"

    Did anyone bother to listen?

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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I agree with Patreaus...the man's actions were "hateful, intolerant, extremely disrespectful."

    So are most actions of burning a bible.

    They should both be legal to do though.
    The issue doesn't seem to be a question of legality, though I agree with you, it should be legal. The issue is the stance the government has taken. The government should never promote the burning of any religious item. And given the fact that we invaded Afghanistan and setup military bases on their turf, burning Bibles so as not to to inflame the natives seems a bit disingenuous.
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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    I like it. It's like saying, "see, we can burn our holy book without killing each other over it, so WTF is YOUR problem?"

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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    So I guess keeping my Koran in a box in the attic is a no-go, roger roger.

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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    The issue doesn't seem to be a question of legality, though I agree with you, it should be legal. The issue is the stance the government has taken. The government should never promote the burning of any religious item. And given the fact that we invaded Afghanistan and setup military bases on their turf, burning Bibles so as not to to inflame the natives seems a bit disingenuous.
    The burning of the bibles was a blunder on the part of the government, most likely a bureacratic mistake that no one took the time to stop and think "this may be one of those times where an exception to procedure is made". I also fully understand taking certain respectful actions by the military with regards to the Koran based on the style of mission that was running there in the aftermath of the ground war where interaction with the population is of great import and many of our allies, not just our enemies, are muslims there.

    But my issue with him was more of his condemnation for Patreaus's views, which I feel was wrong, and more pointedly his comments about the preacher. While I disagree greatly with the likes of Lindsey Graham's views in regards to potential government action, the views expressed by many of them were accurate in my mind in regards to the quality of the action taking place.
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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    The burning of the Holy Bible is equal the voluntary destroying the Foundation of our Christian Western Civilization. Period.
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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    No it's not.
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    Re: Why Itís OK for the U.S. Govt. to Burn Bibles But Condemn Burning the Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    The burning of the Holy Bible is equal the voluntary destroying the Foundation of our Christian Western Civilization. Period.
    Well, I guess you guys have lost, then. Christianity is over, people, pack it in! I hear the next big thing will be Norse polytheism. I like Thor, personally, think I'll get a hammer or whatever holy symbol he likes.
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