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GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

celticwar17 said:
It's not... its not in reality... meaning the physical world, not the mental one.
just like a unicorn, its not based in reality, it is based in fiction
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I think we just have different definitions of "reality".
 
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Again, what are you babbling about? The link you posted revealed how wrong the tactics and falsehoods are that the left is using to paint republicans as racist.
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The link I supplied gave evidence to my claim that the extremist right wing is attempting to take any charge of racism off the table to protect itself to further pursue racist efforts.
 
haymarket said:
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The link I supplied gave evidence to my claim that the extremist right wing is attempting to take any charge of racism off the table to protect itself to further pursue racist efforts.
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Again. Are we reading the same link? The way I'm reading this is that liberals are wrong for trying to play the race card on Conservatives because it doesn't fly. I don't see anything about them trying to take race off the table. Although I wish the liberals would stop being so obsessed about the color of a man's skin. Seems they are the ones who want to keep racism alive.



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There is no doubt that the contemporary Republican electorate contains some out-and-out bigots, just as the Democratic electorate contains people who hate others on the basis of class. These very real prejudices occasionally erupt into public expression, whether in remarks about Jews over the years by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton or in shocking signs at tea party rallies.
But most conservatives have been less concerned with the "hardware" of people's race or ethnicity and more concerned with the "software" of their values or culture. This is why the white Protestant core of the modern conservative movement has not merely integrated Catholic "ethnics" but also rallied behind the Irish American William F. Buckley and the Italian American Antonin Scalia. Jews, women and Hispanics have been similarly integrated into both its ranks and leadership; indeed, many white conservatives swoon when members of minority groups proudly share their values. This explains why, in the 2008 campaign, conservatives were at least as roused by Obama's ties to the white former radical William Ayers as the black Jeremiah Wright, both of whom seemed to make a living out of damning America.
Liberal interpretations that portray modern conservatism as standing athwart the "rights revolution" of the 1960s are hard pressed to explain the growing number of minority and female candidates favored by the conservative rank and file. Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez, Brian Sandoval, Tim Scott, Ryan Frazier, Raul Labrador and Jaime Herrera are GOP nominees for the Senate, governorships and the House because Republican voters preferred them over their white opponents. Allen West in Florida and Jon Barela in New Mexico were the consensus GOP choices to run for competitive House seats. Many of these candidates are well-positioned to win their races and help change the public face of modern conservatism.
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Barbbtx said:
Again. Are we reading the same link? The way I'm reading this is that liberals are wrong for trying to play the race card on Conservatives because it doesn't fly. I don't see anything about them trying to take race off the table. Although I wish the liberals would stop being so obsessed about the color of a man's skin. Seems they are the ones who want to keep racism alive.

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You clearly don't know the difference between acknowledging that racism exists and "trying to keep racism alive".
 
People don't even know what real racism is. The casual use of the word dimiinishes it's importance. It should just be used to describe real racism which is usually in a historic context.

I'ts amazing what this country did and how quickly people changed. People need to be patted on the back for getting along with the people from a different tribe. In like one generation.
 
Barb - the point in me linking to the article was to show a concerted effort by conservatives to attempt to defuse the issue. I guess how I could see how a fellow conservative would see it as positive. I saw it as an indictment of the tactic itself and its rather easy to poke major holes in his defenses.
 
haymarket said:
Barb - the point in me linking to the article was to show a concerted effort by conservatives to attempt to defuse the issue. I guess how I could see how a fellow conservative would see it as positive. I saw it as an indictment of the tactic itself and its rather easy to poke major holes in his defenses.
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Stating facts about the republican party in history and up to date is a concerted effort and tactic to defuse the issue? Talk about a conspiracy theory.
Anyway, good article, thanks.
 
Is this how the GOP flies :fly:its true colors?:usflag2:
 
Barbbtx said:
Better than the way the socialists fly :sinking:

:mrgreen::monkey
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Actually, wasn't it the Republicans who left us :sinking: in debt. Nah, you're not doing too well. :) This is fun game.
 
Chappy said:
Here's why: it's just about unavoidable that racially insensitive or outright racist comments will occur within the Republican party because as it turns out it's membership is just about all white.

“The Republican Party today is first and foremost a political entity dominated by white Americans. Eighty-nine percent of rank-and-file Republicans are non-Hispanic whites, leaving just 5% who are Hispanic (of any race), 2% who are black, and 4% of other races.” — Frank Newport, GALLUP, “Republican Base Heavily White, Conservative, Religious”​

The Republican party by beating down on racist charges now is seeking to inoculate itself against the inevitable lapses that will come almost certainly at inopportune moments in the not-too distant future.
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Zyphlin said:
So...being white makes one more prone to being racially insensitive and outright racist?
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You draw a different conclusion in your question than I would. My conclusion is that the Republican Party in its policies and recent history has failed to attract support from minorities and in so doing has been reduced to being almost a single race organization, indeed a single race and a single segment of the political spectrum: white conservatives. With so little contributed from other aspects of our society it is inevitable, I believe, that insensitivity to the concerns of those other aspects will creep into the Republican platform and compound the condition, making the party ever more ‘pure’: whiter and more conservative. We see that in the lapse of judgment in today's story.
 
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Chappy said:
You draw a different conclusion in your question than I would. My conclusion is that the Republican Party in its policies and recent history has failed to attract support from minorities and in so doing has been reduced to being almost a single race organization, indeed a single race and a single segment of the political spectrum: white conservatives. With so little contributed from other aspects of our society it is inevitable, I believe, that insensitivity to the concerns of those other aspects will creep into the Republican platform and compound the condition, making the party ever more ‘pure’: whiter and more conservative. We see that in the lapse of judgment in today's story.
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^^^ I wouldn't expect anything less from San Francisco.
 
theplaydrive said:
Actually, wasn't it the Republicans who left us :sinking: in debt. Nah, you're not doing too well. :) This is fun game.
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I'd take Bush back over the teenager with his daddy's credit card, we have now.
 
Barbbtx said:
I'd take Bush back over the teenager with his daddy's credit card, we have now.
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Oh, we're still playing I see.

Your comment would make sense if didn't accurately describe George W. Bush. Oh well. I welcome you to try again.
 
Let's review.

There is a huge flap over an Obamonkey Picture.

Now let's Look at some of President Bush that never got much if any coverage in the Media.

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Where was the outrage? This is not even the really bad stuff.

I have to admit some of this is funny as all get out.
 
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Councilman said:
Let's review.

There is a huge flap over an Obamonkey Picture.

Now let's Look at some of President Bush that never got much if any coverage in the Media.

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Where was the outrage? This is not even the really bad stuff.

I have to admit some of this is funny as all get out.
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The left will claim that with Obama it's racist.
 
Chappy said:
You draw a different conclusion in your question than I would. My conclusion is that the Republican Party in its policies and recent history has failed to attract support from minorities and in so doing has been reduced to being almost a single race organization, indeed a single race and a single segment of the political spectrum: white conservatives. With so little contributed from other aspects of our society it is inevitable, I believe, that insensitivity to the concerns of those other aspects will creep into the Republican platform and compound the condition, making the party ever more ‘pure’: whiter and more conservative. We see that in the lapse of judgment in today's story.
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Guess you slept through 2010
Also, what do you think these people are, chopped liver?
Project 21 - Black Conservative Leadership Network
Black Conservatives
2010 Black GOP Candidates
Black conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
National Black Republican Association | National Black Republican Association
List of African-American Republicans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
haymarket said:
Actually African American have been voting for white folks in large numbers most of their lives. They have had precious few opportunities to vote for anything else beside those on lower down ballot local offices. And even then that is usually limited to those in large urban centers like big cities African Americans know a whole lot more about a life time history of voting for Whites than Whites do about voting for people of color. Barack Obama is just the period at the end of a very long sentence and even then he is of blended ethnicities

The State Rep I am chief of staff for represents a district 85% African American. He is not.
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Sometimes, I think some White Americans forget this fact and either assume there have always been choices between white and black politicians for a particular political office or just play stupid.
 
American said:
The left will claim that with Obama it's racist.
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But it is!

Look, if Blacks or Hispanics had been calling Whites monkeys or depicting them as such throughout this nation's history, I'd be onboard with those claiming this is no big deal. But to ignore that this type of treatment has been going on towards African Americans for over a century is to completely ignore the racist attitudes that have and do taken place in this country.

Let's not play ignorance or turn this into a political issue and call it what it is - racist and dispicable no matter who does it to whom!!!
 
Barbbtx said:
… what do you think these people are, chopped liver?
Project 21 - Black Conservative Leadership Network
Black Conservatives
2010 Black GOP Candidates
Black conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
National Black Republican Association | National Black Republican Association
List of African-American Republicans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Chopped liver? No. About 2%? Yes.

“The Republican Party today is first and foremost a political entity dominated by white Americans. Eighty-nine percent of rank-and-file Republicans are non-Hispanic whites, leaving just 5% who are Hispanic (of any race), 2% who are black, and 4% of other races.” — Frank Newport, GALLUP, “Republican Base Heavily White, Conservative, Religious”​
 
Objective Voice said:
But it is!

Look, if Blacks or Hispanics had been calling Whites monkeys or depicting them as such throughout this nation's history, I'd be onboard with those claiming this is no big deal. But to ignore that this type of treatment has been going on towards African Americans for over a century is to completely ignore the racist attitudes that have and do taken place in this country.

Let's not play ignorance or turn this into a political issue and call it what it is - racist and dispicable no matter who does it to whom!!!
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So these are racist to you?
 
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