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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    No, but i would prefer our government to NOT recognize racial divides and later culture will follow afterward.

    "Race is real as an idea. It is not real as a human characteristic."
    EXACTLY, because your idea of race is instead a CULTURE( a culture that labels group differences on the basis of skin instead by the content of their character)... race doesn't exist in the real world, and a neutral institution should not recognize it!
    I'm glad we agree that race is real...as an idea. Also, stop telling me what my idea of race is. My idea of race is not culture. My idea of race is that it is a socially constructed division of humanity based on physical characteristics. People who identify as a particularly race have culture, but culture and race are separate ideas.

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    Wait wait wait.... who will ever debate whether the idea of race exists or not?! That is absolutely obvious. We are discussing that the laws of our society should not be based on this "idea" of race because it is inherently prejudicial.
    You just did. You said that race wasn't real. Except it is real...as an idea....which we now agree on.

    And i don't agree with your opinion on racial divide as grown stronger in the last forty years... that's kind of laughable.
    Ummm...I thought that was your argument. I argued that racial divide has grown weaker...Whatever.

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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your strong reaction to the tactics of the extreme right being exposed and called out. But then you knew that all along or otherwise you would not have bothered to post.
    Again, what are you babbling about? The link you posted revealed how wrong the tactics and falsehoods are that the left is using to paint republicans as racist.

    The real racist are the liberals and their hatred for black conservatives.


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    When newly-elected Florida Republican Rep. Allen West joins the Congressional Black Caucus, there are likely to be some smiles and backslaps as the group welcomes a rare black Republican. But the caucus wasn’t always open to GOP views. Ron Christie writes in his new book, Acting White, that as a rookie black House staffer working for a Florida Republican congressman in 1991, he was ripped by Democrats. He reveals that Rep. Maxine Waters, currently facing ethics charges and a former caucus chairwoman, called him to her office after their first meeting to bark: “You are a sellout to your race! White people work for Republicans. Not African-Americans! You’re nothing but an Uncle Tom!”
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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I'm glad we agree that race is real...as an idea. Also, stop telling me what my idea of race is. My idea of race is not culture. My idea of race is that it is a socially constructed division of humanity based on physical characteristics. People who identify as a particularly race have culture, but culture and race are separate ideas.


    You just did. You said that race wasn't real. Except it is real...as an idea....which we now agree on.


    Ummm...I thought that was your argument. I argued that racial divide has grown weaker...Whatever.
    saying that race exist as any idea doesnt mean anything applied to any of my claims. I dont know why you would bring up the "thought" of race exist's... Of Course it does, tis why we are discussing it.
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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    saying that race exist as any idea doesnt mean anything applied to any of my claims. I dont know why you would bring up the thought of race exist's... Of Course it does, tis why we are discussing it.
    I didn't bring the thought that race exists. You did when you said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    What you define as reality, is NOT reality, race is not a reality...
    That was you making its reality an issue, not me.

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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I didn't bring the thought that race exists. You did when you said this:

    That was you making its reality an issue, not me.
    It's not... its not in reality... meaning the physical world, not the mental one.
    just like a unicorn, its not based in reality, it is based in fiction

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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    It's not... its not in reality... meaning the physical world, not the mental one.
    just like a unicorn, its not based in reality, it is based in fiction
    I think we just have different definitions of "reality".

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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

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    Again, what are you babbling about? The link you posted revealed how wrong the tactics and falsehoods are that the left is using to paint republicans as racist.
    The link I supplied gave evidence to my claim that the extremist right wing is attempting to take any charge of racism off the table to protect itself to further pursue racist efforts.
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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

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    The link I supplied gave evidence to my claim that the extremist right wing is attempting to take any charge of racism off the table to protect itself to further pursue racist efforts.
    Again. Are we reading the same link? The way I'm reading this is that liberals are wrong for trying to play the race card on Conservatives because it doesn't fly. I don't see anything about them trying to take race off the table. Although I wish the liberals would stop being so obsessed about the color of a man's skin. Seems they are the ones who want to keep racism alive.



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    There is no doubt that the contemporary Republican electorate contains some out-and-out bigots, just as the Democratic electorate contains people who hate others on the basis of class. These very real prejudices occasionally erupt into public expression, whether in remarks about Jews over the years by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton or in shocking signs at tea party rallies.
    But most conservatives have been less concerned with the "hardware" of people's race or ethnicity and more concerned with the "software" of their values or culture. This is why the white Protestant core of the modern conservative movement has not merely integrated Catholic "ethnics" but also rallied behind the Irish American William F. Buckley and the Italian American Antonin Scalia. Jews, women and Hispanics have been similarly integrated into both its ranks and leadership; indeed, many white conservatives swoon when members of minority groups proudly share their values. This explains why, in the 2008 campaign, conservatives were at least as roused by Obama's ties to the white former radical William Ayers as the black Jeremiah Wright, both of whom seemed to make a living out of damning America.
    Liberal interpretations that portray modern conservatism as standing athwart the "rights revolution" of the 1960s are hard pressed to explain the growing number of minority and female candidates favored by the conservative rank and file. Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez, Brian Sandoval, Tim Scott, Ryan Frazier, Raul Labrador and Jaime Herrera are GOP nominees for the Senate, governorships and the House because Republican voters preferred them over their white opponents. Allen West in Florida and Jon Barela in New Mexico were the consensus GOP choices to run for competitive House seats. Many of these candidates are well-positioned to win their races and help change the public face of modern conservatism.
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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Again. Are we reading the same link? The way I'm reading this is that liberals are wrong for trying to play the race card on Conservatives because it doesn't fly. I don't see anything about them trying to take race off the table. Although I wish the liberals would stop being so obsessed about the color of a man's skin. Seems they are the ones who want to keep racism alive.

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    You clearly don't know the difference between acknowledging that racism exists and "trying to keep racism alive".

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    Re: GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email

    People don't even know what real racism is. The casual use of the word dimiinishes it's importance. It should just be used to describe real racism which is usually in a historic context.

    I'ts amazing what this country did and how quickly people changed. People need to be patted on the back for getting along with the people from a different tribe. In like one generation.

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