Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 24

Thread: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

  1. #11
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Its come down to this. A FELONY!?!? Law makers need to stop this crap!



    CONTINUED: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com
    This is a job for collections departments, not the police, unless they participate in a repossession.

  2. #12
    Sage
    lpast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Fla
    Last Seen
    05-21-16 @ 10:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    13,565

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    What is with people saying people should be nailed to a cross for minor to medium infractions of the law!?!? A FELONY is for physical crimes and major infractions. To me this crime is minor. It doesnt come CLOSE to deserving ANY jail time or even being a misdemeanor. Whomever thinks Im wrong should get a felony for not thinking this whole topic out!
    Your wrong, go look up the definition of a felony

  3. #13
    Sage
    lpast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Fla
    Last Seen
    05-21-16 @ 10:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    13,565

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. This is a matter for a collection agency. If I charge things on my charge card and don't pay the charge card bill, should the prosecutor file theft charges against me? Don't bother saying yes, because that doesn't happen. Nor should it. This is ridiculous. Rent-A-Centers!! You're thieves!! Allowed to charge usury interest under the guise of rent-to-own. Collect your own damn delinquencies.

    I should pay taxes so the state can help these thieves collect?? No way!!
    Maggie when you use your charge card and buy merchandise the merchandise is PAID FOR by the credit card company. When you lease furniture an merchandise you sign a contract the merchandise is NOT PAID FOR and if you dont return it, it can be a criminal case after all atempts at reasonable action are ignored.

  4. #14
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Maggie when you use your charge card and buy merchandise the merchandise is PAID FOR by the credit card company. When you lease furniture an merchandise you sign a contract the merchandise is NOT PAID FOR and if you dont return it, it can be a criminal case after all atempts at reasonable action are ignored.
    This is a civil matter, in my opinion. Or it should be. These people have an immediate interest in the property, as they are renting to own. If I buy a home in "rent-to-own" mode, which is done all the time -- called Contract for Sale or Contract for Deed -- there are procedures that the lender can take to repossess that home if payments aren't made. Pressing criminal charges is not one of those options. If I purchase a car and don't make the payments, that car can be repossessed. Missing payments and not returning the car does not result in criminal charges. This is a waste of taxpayer dollars and, frankly, I see it as aiding and abetting a blood-sucking business model.
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  5. #15
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Seen
    08-14-12 @ 11:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    3,928

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Thats a civil matter NOT a criminal one. And definately NOT a felony-worthy offense.
    Obviously you have no idea what constitutes a felony.

    A felony is simply any crime punishable by more than 1 year in jail. It does not have to include violence of any type or stealing anything more than 500 dollars worth of goods. People think felony and think like you, damn that must have been some bad shyt. Nope, do something like forget to return furniture or something and you are a convicted felon for life.

    Yes, you can lose your right to own a gun for life for doing something as non chelant as stealing a laptop computer without violence or a threat of any kind. Simply walking out the door with it and you are a felon for life.

    And others, like Maggie, have no idea how the criminal justice system works. Or I should say, what constitutes a civil violation.

    If I am cutting down a tree in my yard and it falls on your car, I'm not a criminal. I'm under civil liability laws.

    However, if I rent your car and don't return it after many months, I am now a criminal. I have stolen the vehicle. If you rent a car and dont return it for months, you don't think you could be prosecuted for grand theft? Me thinks you can be. Same with 1200 bucks worth of furniture.

    And because its greater than 500 dollars, it's grand theft, which is a felony. If you steal 501 dollars worth of chewing gum you are a felon for life. A lot of people have no clue how our criminal justice system works. It would behoove them to learn.

    Want to know something interesting? I bought this laptop computer for 429 dollars from Newegg a month and a half ago. 2 days later, on the website it was 529. Steal this laptop on Monday and it is a misdemeanor. Steal it on Wednesday, and it's a felony. Same laptop stolen, 2 days later. Go figure.
    Last edited by dontworrybehappy; 04-13-11 at 10:54 AM.

  6. #16
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Obviously you have no idea what constitutes a felony.

    A felony is simply any crime punishable by more than 1 year in jail. It does not have to include violence of any type or stealing anything more than 500 dollars worth of goods. People think felony and think like you, damn that must have been some bad shyt. Nope, do something like forget to return furniture or something and you are a convicted felon for life.

    Yes, you can lose your right to own a gun for life for doing something as non chelant as stealing a laptop computer without violence or a threat of any kind. Simply walking out the door with it and you are a felon for life.
    Become a felon and one's whole life changes. Almost every employment application asks, "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" I should have to answer yes because I couldn't pay for some rent-to-own TV set? That's little better than debtor's prison. Hit my credit report. Follow procedures to repossess the furniture. But charge me with a felony? Wrong Wrong Wrong.
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  7. #17
    Sage
    lpast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Fla
    Last Seen
    05-21-16 @ 10:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    13,565

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Become a felon and one's whole life changes. Almost every employment application asks, "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" I should have to answer yes because I couldn't pay for some rent-to-own TV set? That's little better than debtor's prison. Hit my credit report. Follow procedures to repossess the furniture. But charge me with a felony? Wrong Wrong Wrong.
    I agree with that maggie...but this situation is different this is theft and I will explain why its theft. These people are leasing tangible items. They are not paid for up front, they are paid over time in payments, they are reniging on their contracts to pay and KEEPING THE MERCHANDISE. This is not a case of someone that falls on hard times and cant pay a credit card back, all these people have to do is RETURN the merchandise they arent paying for. The felony charge is their own fault for stealing the merchandise. We cant condone one kind of theft and condemn another.

  8. #18
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    In the time of government outlays being strongly higher than its inputs, do we really need to be jailing people for stupid stuff such as this when this could easily be handled privately?

  9. #19
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Seen
    08-14-12 @ 11:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    3,928

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Become a felon and one's whole life changes. Almost every employment application asks, "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" I should have to answer yes because I couldn't pay for some rent-to-own TV set? That's little better than debtor's prison. Hit my credit report. Follow procedures to repossess the furniture. But charge me with a felony? Wrong Wrong Wrong.
    Yep, welcome to the united states of america. 25% of our adult population has a criminal record, and now you see why. Like one article on the FNC website said, "now hiring, but not hiring felons, so 65 million people need not apply."

    How true that is.

    Did you know that writing a bad check for 100 dollars or more is a felony? If that check is more than 500 dollars, then it's a felony and grand theft? I'm not saying I agree with any of this, but it's the truth. It's how the cookie crumbles in our "lock em up" type society. We have more people in prison per capita than any other nation on earth. That says a lot about this country.
    Last edited by dontworrybehappy; 04-13-11 at 11:41 AM.

  10. #20
    White trash on dope.
    d0gbreath's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Denton, TX
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    8,874

    Re: Criminal prosecutions soar in rent-to-own sector

    The United States of Faction has now come to debtor prison status. It's not like I didn't expect it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •