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Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

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Washington (CNN) - Donald Trump has angered some and pleased others for questioning President Obama's birthplace. What Trump is set to do next will likely keep the spotlight on his actions.

On Friday the real-estate mogul and reality TV star will meet with a state lawmaker from Arizona who is sponsoring a so-called "birther bill."

Republican Rep. Carl Seel's bill would require any presidential candidate to prove that he or she was, in fact, born in the United States.

A press release from Seel said he will meet with Trump in the morning at Trump Tower in New York City. "Donald Trump has brought the issue of President Barack Obama failing to provide a birth certificate front and center recently, and sent investigators to Hawaii this week to investigate further," the release said.

"This issue has been gaining steam around the country as several state legislatures are considering legislation to ensure that any candidate running for president provide documentation that they are legally qualified to run for that office."

Seel's office told CNN the lawmaker reached out to Trump to request a meeting, and that Trump accepted. On Thursday morning Seel boarded a plane en route for the Friday meeting.

Trump, who is considering a presidential bid, has caused a stir by questioning if the president was born in the U.S. Speaking with CNN on Thursday. Trump echoed a line he'd said in a morning TV interview: that the president's citizenship may be a "scam."

CNN has debunked such claims surrounding the president's birthplace.

In 2008, the Obama campaign produced a certification of live birth that reports his birthplace as Honolulu, Hawaii – a document the Hawaii government says is official evidence of his birth in the state. Among other evidence of Obama's Hawaii birth is the fact the hospital where he was born took out ads in two Hawaiian newspapers in 1961 announcing the birth and while current Gov. Neil Abercrombie says he knew Obama's family and remembers his birth.

Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona ‘birther bill’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

This bloke will never, ever be president.
 
I really have to wonder what the guy's trying to get at with his bill. I have no problem with a Presidential candidate having to show proof of his birth in the US. I just have a feeling that it becomes a political football used to keep people out of the race because someone thinks them unpalatable.

What is the threshold for challenging the documentation? This guy over here in the corner doesn't believe it's real?
 
Trump should meet with the Governor of Hawaii --- remember that guy who made a big stink about proving the birthers wrong and making them out like idiots?

What ever happened to that guy anyway?
 
proving the birthers wrong and making them out like idiots?

Do birthers need help looking like idiots? That's like shooting fish in a barrel.
 
Trump should meet with the Governor of Hawaii --- remember that guy who made a big stink about proving the birthers wrong and making them out like idiots?

What ever happened to that guy anyway?

If you're referring to the former DNC campaign clerk out of Hawaii, Tim Adams, I think he just faded into oblivian after making the claim he had access to (or saw) evidence proving Obama wasn't born in Hawaii (or anywhere in the U.S.), but never produced the evidence himself.

If you're referring to Hawaii's Gov. Abercrombie, Hawaiian law prevented him from gaining access to the records. There were two prominent threads on the matter:

Thread 1

Thread 2

As with all "birther" threads, both provided in-depth insight into the subject matter at hand, as well as offered some very humorous moments.

Personal Note: My position on the matter remains unchanged. The President went through the DNC, the validation process with each state that put him on the ballot, ratification by the Electoral College and a Congressional Resolution, not to mention the Hawaii State Health Officer verified his birth records. So, unless The Donald's PIs actually find proof contrary to the published document posted online, President Obama meets the constitutional natural born citizenship requirement to be President.

Good Luck, Mr. Trump! You're gonna need it.

Sidenote: My prediction - Either Trump will make a public statement within the next 30-90 days as to what his private investigators found or he'll pull a last minute "I have proof" stunt deep into the primaries just as Alan Keyes tried to do when he lost the Illinois Senate race to Obama. If Trump doesn't come back w/something concrete one way or another but especially with no proof whatsoever, he'll become a laughing stock and his candidacy won't be taken seriously even by those who admire him. But he put himself out there...
 
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Trump should meet with the Governor of Hawaii --- remember that guy who made a big stink about proving the birthers wrong and making them out like idiots?

What ever happened to that guy anyway?
After Governor Albercrombie couldn't produce a long form birth certificate, he went dormant.
 
if obama weren't a US citizen then hillery would have found out during the 2 years while he was running. where was the rnc during that time?
 
Trump should meet with the Governor of Hawaii --- remember that guy who made a big stink about proving the birthers wrong and making them out like idiots?

What ever happened to that guy anyway?

ummmmm....he quietly went off into the sunset








to meet with Trump and the other birthers. :)
 
if obama weren't a US citizen then hillery would have found out during the 2 years while he was running. where was the rnc during that time?

The RNC was saying if Hillary didn't find anything there wasn't anything to find.













However, what if Obama had something very damning on the Clintons?
 
Sidenote: My prediction - Either Trump will make a public statement within the next 30-90 days as to what his private investigators found or he'll pull a last minute "I have proof" stunt deep into the primaries just as Alan Keyes tried to do when he lost the Illinois Senate race to Obama. If Trump doesn't come back w/something concrete one way or another but especially with no proof whatsoever, he'll become a laughing stock and his candidacy won't be taken seriously even by those who admire him. But he put himself out there...

I don't think he'll do either. He's just trying to become the "birther candidate." Risky on his part since most mainstream Republicans don't buy the birther crap either.
 
Okcham wrote: Trump should meet with the Governor of Hawaii --- remember that guy who made a big stink about proving the birthers wrong and making them out like idiots?

What ever happened to that guy anyway?

He wasn't able to find the birth certificate. I guess Obama was no help at all.

1. Barack Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetero.

2. In Hawaii name change in the adoption is mandatory.

3. The original birth certificate is replaced with a new birth certificate bearing the child's new name.

4. If there is a birth certificate for Barack Obama in Hawaii, that birth certificate bears the name Soetero.


That, to me, is confusing enough an issue to move someone who has perhaps chosen to adopt his old name but never actually gone through the legal process to change it, to cover up his original birth certificate. The one that gives his name as Soetero.

We have had adoptions in my family. I know what happens to the birth certificates. They are changed.
 
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If you're referring to the former DNC campaign clerk out of Hawaii, Tim Adams, I think he just faded into oblivian after making the claim he had access to (or saw) evidence proving Obama wasn't born in Hawaii (or anywhere in the U.S.), but never produced the evidence himself.

If you're referring to Hawaii's Gov. Abercrombie, Hawaiian law prevented him from gaining access to the records. There were two prominent threads on the matter:

Thread 1

Thread 2

As with all "birther" threads, both provided in-depth insight into the subject matter at hand, as well as offered some very humorous moments.

Personal Note: My position on the matter remains unchanged. The President went through the DNC, the validation process with each state that put him on the ballot, ratification by the Electoral College and a Congressional Resolution, not to mention the Hawaii State Health Officer verified his birth records. So, unless The Donald's PIs actually find proof contrary to the published document posted online, President Obama meets the constitutional natural born citizenship requirement to be President.

Good Luck, Mr. Trump! You're gonna need it.

Sidenote: My prediction - Either Trump will make a public statement within the next 30-90 days as to what his private investigators found or he'll pull a last minute "I have proof" stunt deep into the primaries just as Alan Keyes tried to do when he lost the Illinois Senate race to Obama. If Trump doesn't come back w/something concrete one way or another but especially with no proof whatsoever, he'll become a laughing stock and his candidacy won't be taken seriously even by those who admire him. But he put himself out there...
I don't believe there is any definitive proof that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I can't imagine any such evidence exists given the amount of effort expended to prove Obama was not born in Hawaii and after 3 years -- nothing.
 
I don't believe there is any definitive proof that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I can't imagine any such evidence exists given the amount of effort expended to prove Obama was not born in Hawaii and after 3 years -- nothing.

conversely there is no concrete proof he was...thats why this just keeps motoring along. My position is this is a moot point now, hes been in office over two years, its way past the point of being effective. Obama has enough baggage to try an overcome the next election.
 
conversely there is no concrete proof he was...thats why this just keeps motoring along. My position is this is a moot point now, hes been in office over two years, its way past the point of being effective. Obama has enough baggage to try an overcome the next election.

Talk of baggage I find is often redundant.

There isn't a politician on this planet that doesnt have some form of baggage...

And if they dont, it will be delivered :lol:
 
In magic this is called misdirection.

The democrats have the birth certificate as misdirection.
The republicans have Palin as misdirection.

Both have taken so much time and energy of the opposing parties.

It is amazing.
 
conversely there is no concrete proof he was...
That's not true at all. He has presented his certification of live birth which was certified and issued by the state of Hawaii. That's pretty concrete. Add to it the director of health and the state registrar both confirming his record. What's lacking, is any evidence that his COLB is either not authentic or at least, not accurate. All that exists are "suggestions" to that affect.
 
Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims-Reading and Understanding is your friend folks!
Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

Hawaii is still trying to cover for Obama and they lied this morning. Here is a Hawaii long form birth certificate that was sent to a lady last month on March 15, 2011 as seen on the state registrar stamp at the bottom. It cost $10 for the certified copy. Her friend Miki Booth, a former Hawaiian resident and Oklahoma former candidate for the house posted it for all to see on her Facebook page along with her sons who was born in Hawaii as well as her husband. Here it is and go to her Facebook page to see the others posted:


Here is the story behind it.
Exposing the Birth Certificate Lies Used to Cover for Obama| The Post & Email

I have some fine friends in Hawai’i who share my fears for our country and my fierce desire to expose the lies that shield Obama. They have helped shed new light on the Hawai’i issues, and this newest long-form birth certificate dispels the rumor that one can no longer obtain a long-form birth certificate. The Post & Email reported last year that one can indeed get a long-form birth certificate, but it wasn’t until a few weeks ago that a friend sent me this one. The friend whose daughter was born at Tripler Army Hospital reported it took seven days and cost $10.00. A short-form certificate would have taken a lot less time and perhaps been available the same day. Here is the proof also that there is not and never was a box for religion. Note that the father’s race is listed as “Black,” not “African,” about which there have been considerable debate and speculation. No proof has been found to date with regard to a set statute for classification of races. I believe either are used according to the petitioner. Hawai’i is so unique with the blend of many races that we take pride in the fact that we are endowed with a multitude of cultures. Note the many races on this birth certificate. Of course English and German would be Caucasian as well as Portuguese. Chinese and Korean could be listed as Asian, but the people of Hawai’i would not want our races and cultures to be lumped together in a category for our posterity. We are unique.


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Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims-Reading and Understanding is your friend folks!
Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com
Not that it will end this nonsense because birfers are like zombies who can't be killed, but Dr. Fukino put the final nail in the birfer coffin.

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

And then the spokesman for Hawaii's attorney general's office explains why Obama has not released the long form ...

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records. "It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.
 
Dear Apuzo, I mean no disrepect but will take the word of Dr. Chiyome Fukino over your friends.

I am very sorry you are fearful but the birthplace of Obama should be the least of worries right now. We have so many more pressing issues to worry about and I find Obama to be an honorable and trust worthy man.

I wish you peace though.
 
Dear Apuzo, I mean no disrepect but will take the word of Dr. Chiyome Fukino over your friends.

I am very sorry you are fearful but the birthplace of Obama should be the least of worries right now. We have so many more pressing issues to worry about and I find Obama to be an honorable and trust worthy man.

I wish you peace though.
You must remember but the most important issue should be making sure Article 2 Section 1 has not been violated. Article 2 Section 1 is paramount to the national security of our country.
 
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