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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    It must be nice to be so rich that you can waste your money on ridiculous assertions such as this. I wonder what he will do when they throw his case out?

    It is obvious Trump is just trying to trump up some votes when he casts his name into the Presidential run! I'm sure that there will be many that will be willing to waste their vote on this shallow hair-needing person just because he satisfies their need to believe that Obama is not a US citizen. Pity.



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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Last I heard, he is polling second place....
    what poll?
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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    You do know that in 1961 Hawaii accepted foreign born births and gave them birth certificates? Also the Hawaii official lied. He said you couldn't get photocopies of your records. The law says otherwise as noted in the statutes. They flat out lied. Obama, if born in Hawaii is still not a natural born citizen.
    My daughter was born in cuba, to american parents.....is she a citizen?
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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My daughter was born in cuba, to american parents.....is she a citizen?
    Yes she is a citizen but she wouldn't qualify for Article 2 Section 1. You have to be a natural born citizen for that.

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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    Yes she is a citizen but she wouldn't qualify for Article 2 Section 1. You have to be a natural born citizen for that.
    funny that her birth certificate doesn't make such a distinction....not to mention that her official birth certificate states she was born in Washington, D.C.
    I was there, as was her mother. The girl was born in Cuba....
    Try telling her she can't run for POTUS. She'll slap you silly.....
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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Trump has even less of a chance to get the GOP nomination than does Palin, or Huckabee,
    or even Fred Thompson, and he ain't running....
    There just aren't enough republicans ignorant enouth to vote in a sure loser.
    The world watched with amusement as we elected GWB, they won't stand around laughing while we make the same mistake again. They learned that it isn't funny when a clown gets promoted to ringmaster....
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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post

    Wong Kim Ark was found to be a citizen, not a natural born citizen in it's ruling.
    The relevant part of that ruling to our discussion is that the Supreme Court recognized the lack of a legal definition for the term, natural born citizen." It clarified that, "some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class, there have been doubts..." The court also pointed out that U.S. v Kim Wong Ark was not going to define it, "For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts."

    The term has never been defined. But we've now how two presidents without two U.S. citizen parents. The precedent has defined the term.

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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post

    The reason natural born citizen was added to the presidential clause is because the founders wanted their future presidents to have sole allegiance for the US and no allegiances to other countries. The only exceptions were the first few presidents who were grandfathered in. Natural Born Citizen was a higher level of citizenship, born to two U.S. parents was the founders intent.
    You're right when you say "natural born citizen" is a "higher level of citizenship" than the first few presidents -- that doesn't mean it's a "higher level of citizenship" because it requires two U.S. citizen parents, it's higher because the first few presidents were naturalized Americans and the Founders wanted the president to be born in the U.S. At the time of the first few elections, there were no natural born U.S. citizens over the age of 34.

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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    or even Fred Thompson, and he ain't running....
    ....
    Not to derail the thread here but whatever happened to Fred Thompson? At one point he was going to be the Republican's Golden Boy then he just kind of vanished.

    I did like the photo sessions of Fred and his lovely younger wife though. She looked like she had a great personality.

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    Re: Trump to meet with sponsor of Arizona 'birther bill'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Not to derail the thread here but whatever happened to Fred Thompson? At one point he was going to be the Republican's Golden Boy then he just kind of vanished.

    I did like the photo sessions of Fred and his lovely younger wife though. She looked like she had a great personality.
    I tell you what happened to Fred Thompson. He was in the TV program "The Good Wife" the other night. Amazing, how much Reps/cons badmouth Hollywood, but are so quick to accept them when they represent them (Reagan, Thompson) - even Palin, she sure didn't mind her daughter "Dancing with the Stars" - kinda hypocritical if you ask me.



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