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    Unhappy Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    This is horrible. I mean REALLY horrible. The Ocean will be poisoned

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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    This is horrible. I mean REALLY horrible. The Ocean will be poisoned

    Don't worry... the EPA is in the process of adjusting the acceptable levels of radiation to be much higher, so the radiation concern will be lowered.

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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    This is horrible. I mean REALLY horrible. The Ocean will be poisoned

    Now for the serious response :

    This makes me absolutely sick, what the hell are these people thinking, dumping radioactive water into the oceans.

    You should go out and get some sushi or whatever fish you can get now because within a year or so I don't think you'll be able to get fish that isn't contaminated, of course we'll be told that it's safe and by the time the health effects become apparent a sufficient amount of time will have passed so that these can be attributed to something OTHER THEN the radiation.

    So, is anyone else less then convinced that Chernobyl was a bigger disaster??

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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Now for the serious response :

    This makes me absolutely sick, what the hell are these people thinking, dumping radioactive water into the oceans.

    You should go out and get some sushi or whatever fish you can get now because within a year or so I don't think you'll be able to get fish that isn't contaminated, of course we'll be told that it's safe and by the time the health effects become apparent a sufficient amount of time will have passed so that these can be attributed to something OTHER THEN the radiation.

    So, is anyone else less then convinced that Chernobyl was a bigger disaster??
    Yup! And I LOVE sushi
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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    So, is anyone else less then convinced that Chernobyl was a bigger disaster??
    You've GOT to be kidding. Oh wait... you were 3 when it happened. Sorry I forgot.
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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    You've GOT to be kidding. Oh wait... you were 3 when it happened. Sorry I forgot.
    Alright, put your money where your mouth is and prove that Chernobyl was the greater disaster as you're implying.

    The way I'm looking at this in comparison to the details of Chernobyl (since you were wrong again at guessing my age, you are at least correct in the sense that I was too young to know) is that on that scale of 1-7 Three Mile Island was a 3 and Chernobyl is a 7... well, Fukushima should be either a 9 or a 10 out of 10 where 1-7 are at the same scale.

    This will be an interesting argument.

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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    you are at least correct in the sense that I was too young to know
    Yup, so instead of educating yourself with this fantastic resource you are using to type, let's just speculate instead.

    We'll start off easy.

    Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "An explosion and fire released large quantities of radioactive contamination into the atmosphere, which spread over much of Western Russia and Europe."

    "The battle to contain the contamination and avert a greater catastrophe ultimately involved over 500,000 workers and cost an estimated 18 billion rubles, crippling the Soviet economy."

    "These events exposed the graphite moderator of the reactor to air, causing it to ignite.[2] The resulting fire sent a plume of highly radioactive smoke fallout into the atmosphere and over an extensive geographical area, including Pripyat."

    "350,400 people were evacuated and resettled"

    "reactor four suffered a catastrophic power increase, leading to explosions in its core. This dispersed large quantities of radioactive fuel and core materials into the atmosphere[8]:73 and ignited the combustible graphite moderator. The burning graphite moderator increased the emission of radioactive particles, carried by the smoke, as the reactor had not been encased by any kind of hard containment vessel."

    "A second, more powerful explosion occurred about two or three seconds after the first; evidence indicates that the second explosion resulted from a nuclear excursion."

    "The operators were given respirators and potassium iodide tablets and told to continue working."

    "The fallout was detected over all of Europe except for the Iberian Peninsula."

    "A large area in Russia south of Bryansk was also contaminated, as were parts of northwestern Ukraine. Studies in surrounding countries indicate that over one million people could have been affected by radiation."

    "Official figures in southern Bavaria in Germany indicated that some wild plant species contained substantial levels of cesium"

    "The Chernobyl nuclear power plant is located next to the Pripyat River, which feeds into the Dnipro River reservoir system, one of the largest surface water systems in Europe. The radioactive contamination of aquatic systems therefore became a major problem in the immediate aftermath of the accident"

    " The contamination of fish caused short-term concern in parts of the UK and Germany and in the long term (years rather than months) in the affected areas of Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia as well as in parts of Scandinavia."

    "significant transfers of radionuclides to groundwater have occurred from waste disposal sites in the 30 km (19 mi) exclusion zone around Chernobyl"

    "Of the 440,350 wild boar killed in the 2010 hunting season in Germany, over 1,000 were found to be contaminated with levels of radiation above the permitted limit of 600 bequerels, presumably due to residual radioactivity from Chernobyl."

    "The after-effects of Chernobyl were expected to be seen for a further 100 years"


    See how easy that is to learn something?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcfly
    since you were wrong again at guessing my age
    I didn't guess. I went off of one of your posts. Why are you lying?... (if you're not lying in this thread, you were in the one where you posted your age).
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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    Yup, so instead of educating yourself with this fantastic resource you are using to type, let's just speculate instead.

    We'll start off easy.

    Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "An explosion and fire released large quantities of radioactive contamination into the atmosphere, which spread over much of Western Russia and Europe."

    "The battle to contain the contamination and avert a greater catastrophe ultimately involved over 500,000 workers and cost an estimated 18 billion rubles, crippling the Soviet economy."

    "These events exposed the graphite moderator of the reactor to air, causing it to ignite.[2] The resulting fire sent a plume of highly radioactive smoke fallout into the atmosphere and over an extensive geographical area, including Pripyat."

    "350,400 people were evacuated and resettled"

    "reactor four suffered a catastrophic power increase, leading to explosions in its core. This dispersed large quantities of radioactive fuel and core materials into the atmosphere[8]:73 and ignited the combustible graphite moderator. The burning graphite moderator increased the emission of radioactive particles, carried by the smoke, as the reactor had not been encased by any kind of hard containment vessel."

    "A second, more powerful explosion occurred about two or three seconds after the first; evidence indicates that the second explosion resulted from a nuclear excursion."

    "The operators were given respirators and potassium iodide tablets and told to continue working."

    "The fallout was detected over all of Europe except for the Iberian Peninsula."

    "A large area in Russia south of Bryansk was also contaminated, as were parts of northwestern Ukraine. Studies in surrounding countries indicate that over one million people could have been affected by radiation."

    "Official figures in southern Bavaria in Germany indicated that some wild plant species contained substantial levels of cesium"

    "The Chernobyl nuclear power plant is located next to the Pripyat River, which feeds into the Dnipro River reservoir system, one of the largest surface water systems in Europe. The radioactive contamination of aquatic systems therefore became a major problem in the immediate aftermath of the accident"

    " The contamination of fish caused short-term concern in parts of the UK and Germany and in the long term (years rather than months) in the affected areas of Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia as well as in parts of Scandinavia."

    "significant transfers of radionuclides to groundwater have occurred from waste disposal sites in the 30 km (19 mi) exclusion zone around Chernobyl"

    "Of the 440,350 wild boar killed in the 2010 hunting season in Germany, over 1,000 were found to be contaminated with levels of radiation above the permitted limit of 600 bequerels, presumably due to residual radioactivity from Chernobyl."

    "The after-effects of Chernobyl were expected to be seen for a further 100 years"

    See how easy that is to learn something?
    Ya, and I was already aware of all that... I was hoping that you weren't going to stop half-way and actually make the comparison by what measure that Chernobyl is still a bigger disaster then Fukushima as you've implied?

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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ya, and I was already aware of all that... I was hoping that you weren't going to stop half-way and actually make the comparison by what measure that Chernobyl is still a bigger disaster then Fukushima as you've implied?
    You were the one that made the assertion bud. How about YOU tell us how dumping radioactive water into the ocean makes Fukushima a bigger disaster than Chernobyl.
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    Re: Fukushima nos. 5 & 6 flooded: Announcer cries

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    You were the one that made the assertion bud. How about YOU tell us how dumping radioactive water into the ocean makes Fukushima a bigger disaster than Chernobyl.
    Actually, I asked the question if anyone else was still convinced that Chernobyl was a greater disaster... but sure.

    Chernobyl had an explosion and fire burning in it's reactor for 10 days before it was able to be capped off and sealed... there was a huge level of radioactive debris projected out in all directions, and the cloud of radioactive debris that made it into the jetstream and was measurable for around 3 years before dissipating to the point of being indistinguishable from back ground radiation.

    and in comparison :

    1 - Number of reactors : Reactor 1 had a partial meltdown and suffered an explosion, Reactor 2 and 4 had partial meltdowns and reactor 3 had a full meltdown with a massive explosion, this projected the MOX fuel thousands of feet into the air and projected for miles around.

    2 - Duration : 10 days vs 3+ weeks and counting (the cloud of radiation having already encircled the globe and still more is added)

    3 - Material : Chernobyls singular uranium reactor compared to 3 uranium reactors and a plutonium mix reactor

    4 - Most of the radioactive fallout landed in the oceans already

    5 - Japan's has a greater population density

    AND THEN after several weeks the reservoirs have been filled with water so radioactive that it's about 7.5 million times the radiation that would be legally allowed to be dumped in the ocean...

    I'm sure I could find more points... but since you ignored the first link I put up.

    I don't suppose you'd have another explanation how the EPA suddenly after all these decades of radiation testing, etc... that all of a sudden they give themselves a facepalm and realize 'oh you can be exposed to several thousand times more radiation then we previously estimated and it's still safe'? I mean, the timing alone on that announcement is suspect, do you perhaps have a better explanation other then cover-up?

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