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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    unions are just one lobby among many. the funny part though is that unions look out for more middle class, normal people than many of the rest of them and yet they're the ones people are really targeting.
    unions look out for their members contrary to the best interests of the publi

    they also support politicians who raise taxes on productive people and give plush contracts to the unions



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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    unions look out for their members contrary to the best interests of the publi

    they also support politicians who raise taxes on productive people and give plush contracts to the unions
    i guess that depends on your definition of "best interest of the public" - unions are just an efficient way for workers to organize.

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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    i guess that depends on your definition of "best interest of the public" - unions are just an efficient way for workers to organize.
    less work for more pay involving public workers is hardly in the public interest



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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    That just cant be

    How can the unions be destroying america when membership is among multidecade lows
    Sad hyperbole.

    Unions aren't a bad thing. Few suggest they are. But public sector unions can be problematic. For a variety of reasons...


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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Sad hyperbole.

    Unions aren't a bad thing. Few suggest they are. But public sector unions can be problematic. For a variety of reasons...


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    ok
    list those reasons
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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    less work for more pay involving public workers is hardly in the public interest
    "less work for more pay" - that's an interesting way of looking at people who took the initiative to get good work conditions, salaries and reasonable hours instead of leaving all of that up to the whim of their employer.

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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Union membership surges among state workers

    By JOHN O’CONNOR The Associated Press Mar 26, 2011 06:56PM

    SPRINGFIELD — It’s getting lonely at the top of Illinois state government.

    In the past eight years, more than 10,000 state employees have joined unions, a four-fold increase over the previous eight years, according to records analyzed by The Associated Press.

    If pending requests are approved by the Illinois Labor Relations Board, nearly 97 percent of state workers would be represented by unions — including many employees once considered management. Only 1,700 “bosses” would be left out of nearly 50,000 state employees...........
    Union membership surges among state workers - Lake County News-Sun

    Union managers, I am all for it.

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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    As I understand it, union growth is in the bigger money occupations like doctors and engineers.

    The most succesful union is the cast of Friends who unionized to earn a $ million per episode.

    Charlie Sheen, the rock star from Mars, is trying to contract for $ 3 million per episode by winning. Alan and Charlie are a classic comedy team. Shouldn't they unionize so that they both get a huge raise?

    Should David Bowie sue for some of that money or just let Charlie be the rock star from Mars as a courtesy?

    Here's a little gossip leak. Mean Sue Sylvester on Glee is going to be David Bowie in an upcoming episode that has already been filmed. I guess it's like when she was Madonna in an earlier episode. That won't be a hoot! But that''s gotta be tough. deciding which David Bowie to be.

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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    unions are just one lobby among many. the funny part though is that unions look out for more middle class, normal people than many of the rest of them and yet they're the ones people are really targeting.
    That's hilarious. Unions look out for, oh, right, union bosses. That's why their pension is funded and the workers pensions are underfunded. And, people do tend to target criminals. Extortion, assault, murder, theft, fraud. And, the victims of this are middle-class folks. Who did the government screw with the takeover of General Motors? The middle-class foks who had GM bonds in the pension portfolios. Who did the goverment reward with the takeover of General Motors? The union thugs who gave President Obama millions and millins.

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    Re: Union membership down again in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    ok
    list those reasons
    1. subverts democracy by giving a non-represenatitve, elected, or accountable entity veto power over the decisions of the representatives of the people

    2. creates powerful pressure groups with incentives to push for unsustainable growth and spending on the part of government, who are also uniquely positioned to place intense pressure on those in the political structure least able to resist them.

    3. private sector unions are limited in their sapping of a corporation by a simple factor; they want the company to survive and the company must be profitable in order to do so. public sector unions are under no such constraint, as those who they are negotiating with have only gain and no pain in endlessly extending and increasing their benefits. the taxpayer pays, but that's because he is forced to by law.


    4. these above factors combined have led to our current situation; where public sector unions and their associated costs are threatning to bankrupt not only multiple counties and municipalities, but full, semi-soveriegn states.

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