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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Organized crime often has supporters who think they can get something and give up nothing. Unions are a very, very lucrative branch of organized crime. Extortion, fraud, bribery, assault, intimidation, theft, and other crimes are their stock in trade.
    Government officials can be involved in organized crime too... but who is keeping track? Do you have proof that the Wisconsin labor unions are crime ridden? Probably not, you're just spouting off a bunch of anti union bull****

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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I pointed this facet out many weeks ago.

    The parallels between the Wisconsin GOP and Soviet/Nazi anti-union measures are unmistakable.
    I think I do remember you pointing it out, but you made reference to Russia...

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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Please explain this so-called slippery slope. Because I call that slippery slope democracy in action. Certainly not Nazi Germany. Competely ridiculous.
    I wouldn't call it democracy in action until we see the recall and the results. They didn't run on doing what they did, and it's viewed as widely unpopular in state.

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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's a fair statement. Comparing this situation to Nazi Germany is not.
    Much like with the Jews, Nazi Germany attacked unions incrementally. One step at a time.

    The Wisconsin GOP has taken a step.

    Fortunately, the people will decide on the merits or demerits of their action.

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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I wouldn't call it democracy in action until we see the recall and the results. They didn't run on doing what they did, and it's viewed as widely unpopular in state.
    Please tell me exactly what is not democracy in action. "They" don't have to explicitly state every piece of legislation they hope to enact. Where in the Constitution does it say that? As to whether or not it is widely unpopular? The democratic process will prove that out.

    The only subversion of democracy done in Wisconsin was when a possee of Democrats donned running shoes and ran like little girls into Illinois. Unless you have other concrete examples??
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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Much like with the Jews, Nazi Germany attacked unions incrementally. One step at a time.

    The Wisconsin GOP has taken a step.

    Fortunately, the people will decide on the merits or demerits of their action.
    No, they did not. What's going on in Wisconsin has absolutely no comparability to Nazi Germay!! Unbelievable. Just. Unbelievable.

    I don't know where you live, but here in the United States, the people always decide.
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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know where you live, but here in the United States, the people always decide.
    Where do I live? I resent your cheap-shot insinuation. Does Naperville ring any bells? Talk about thuggery.

    I am not a Democrat. I am not now and I have have never been a union member. This is a matter of principle. What the Wisconsin GOP did here was nothing short of gunboat diplomacy. I find it unbelievably sad that you can't see it.

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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Please tell me exactly what is not democracy in action. "They" don't have to explicitly state every piece of legislation they hope to enact. Where in the Constitution does it say that? As to whether or not it is widely unpopular? The democratic process will prove that out.

    The only subversion of democracy done in Wisconsin was when a possee of Democrats donned running shoes and ran like little girls into Illinois. Unless you have other concrete examples??
    He didn't have to run on what he is doing, but why didn't he? Could it be that he knew it would be risky to run on and not that popular with the voters?

    It's not democratic because the people didn't actually vote for what he is doing. If he ran on what he was doing, he probably wouldn't have been elected, and since his poll numbers have dropped significantly.

    A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Wisconsin Voters finds that just 34% Strongly Approve of the job he is doing, while 48% Strongly Disapprove. Overall, including those who somewhat approve or disapprove, the new Republican governor earns positive reviews from 43% and negative reviews from 57% of voters statewide.
    34% strongly approve... that's it! That doesn't look democratic to me, it doesn't look like he governing according to the people who elected him.
    Wisconsin Governor Walker: 43% Approval Rating - Rasmussen Reports™

    Yet another poll in Wisconsin, this time commissioned by a free-market think tank, the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute, shows voters disapproving of Gov. Scott Walker, and saying he should compromise on his budget proposal and its anti-public employee union provisions.

    Walker's overall approval ratings and personal favorable numbers are identical, at 43% approval/favorable to 53% disapproval/unfavorable, with only some internal variation between the "strongly" and "somewhat" sub-categories in each.
    53% disapprove of him in that poll... that's more than half. I'd say that's pretty bad. If the guy doesn't want to get recalled, he should actually try listening to the people who voted for him.

    Another Poll: Wisconsinites Disapprove Of Walker, Want Him To Compromise | TPMDC

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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    He didn't have to run on what he is doing, but why didn't he? Could it be that he knew it would be risky to run on and not that popular with the voters?

    It's not democratic because the people didn't actually vote for what he is doing. If he ran on what he was doing, he probably wouldn't have been elected, and since his poll numbers have dropped significantly.

    34% strongly approve... that's it! That doesn't look democratic to me, it doesn't look like he governing according to the people who elected him.
    Wisconsin Governor Walker: 43% Approval Rating - Rasmussen Reports™

    53% disapprove of him in that poll... that's more than half. I'd say that's pretty bad. If the guy doesn't want to get recalled, he should actually try listening to the people who voted for him.

    Another Poll: Wisconsinites Disapprove Of Walker, Want Him To Compromise | TPMDC
    We don't govern by polls in the United States. As for polls, what questions did they ask? Who did they poll? When were the polls taken? What was the methodology used? Poll results are meaningless without this information.

    I don't know what's going to happen with this legislation. I don't know who will actually be recalled. But I do know that we are operating within the confines of a democracy and not in any way, shape or form anything at all!! like Nazi Germany!!
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    Re: Poland's Solidarity Aligns with Wisconsin Workers



    Sorry Maggs, couldn't resist

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