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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Working in a pharmacy, I can tell you that almost 90% (or so it seems) of Medicaid prescriptions are spent on narcotics, birth control, and viagra. Things that are not necessary to life. The truth is, is that cuts need to be made, and they may hurt. We need to reform healthcare to make it cheaper. It wouldn't surprise me if we spend all the cut money on waste anyway.
    Put those three things and you got one major party.

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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that seems kinda odd. btw, birth control is a good thing. you can't bitch about too many abortions AND birth control coverage at the same time.
    I can when I'm paying for it. Literally, they drive up in SUV's and are on medicaid. This is wrong.
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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Nor sure if you undertand that the medical entitlement costs are the long term killer for the U.. budget. I have heard the number of $30 trillion anticipated shortfall in present dollars. So yes, this is a key problem that has to be fixed.

    My sense is that the only way to really fix our problem is that dems will have to be realistic about entitlements and repubs will have to be realisitc about taxes. My understanding is that the proposal acknowledged the need for tac reforms but did not get into specifics.

    It would also seem that not enough attention was on defense spending. But this plan was just to get the discussion on the table. It is not this way or the highway.

    This could be a baseline on what is the key issue for the 2012 elections. Sort of like Ross Perot's " great sucking sound" of job outsourcing, which turned out to be true. It also led Clinton to be more fiscally sound than the two guys following him.
    i understand the problem

    i also understand we have only recently been gifted a template to solve the fiscal problem: the deficit commission report

    unfortunately, the democrats do not want to have to deal with its cost cutting aspects of entitlements and the republicans refuse to recognize the need for revision of the tax system
    there is too much truth in that simpson-bowles report ... hence it is DOA ... like the present republican proposal
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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I can when I'm paying for it. Literally, they drive up in SUV's and are on medicaid. This is wrong.
    fraud is everywhere, but the whole "driving caddies and using food stamps" is trite.

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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Put those three things and you got one major party.
    Take those three things and you've got yourself a Oakland Raider Reciever

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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i understand the problem

    i also understand we have only recently been gifted a template to solve the fiscal problem: the deficit commission report

    unfortunately, the democrats do not want to have to deal with its cost cutting aspects of entitlements and the republicans refuse to recognize the need for revision of the tax system
    there is too much truth in that simpson-bowles report ... hence it is DOA ... like the present republican proposal
    that would be the one Obama ignored in his budget recommendations, right?
    Obama budget falls far short of debt commission savings plan - The Hill's On The Money
    President Obama’s 2012 budget request to be released on Monday will reduce budget deficits over the next decade by only a quarter of the amount proposed by the presidential debt commission in December, a senior administration official confirmed Sunday.

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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i also understand we have only recently been gifted a template to solve the fiscal problem: the deficit commission report
    they surprised everyone by actually doing their job and doing it well; that is true.

    unfortunately, the democrats do not want to have to deal with its cost cutting aspects of entitlements
    or cowboy poets.

    and the republicans refuse to recognize the need for revision of the tax system
    actually what we are seeing from the Republican tax plan out of this budget is very similar to what Bowles-Simpson suggested; lowering rates by removing loopholes. and the Medicare reform is very similar (if not the exact) to the bipartisan Ryan-Rivlin plan from that same commission.

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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    This is basically cutting health care for our poor, elderly. I see this backfiring, but whatever. It doesn't really matter, because it's not really a cut. Health care is inelastic so the money will come from some where.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    This is basically cutting health care for our poor, elderly. I see this backfiring, but whatever. It doesn't really matter, because it's not really a cut. Health care is inelastic so the money will come from some where.
    You got it wrong. They are going to subsidze the private industry in order to save money. In essence, they want to turn Medcaid into a giant HMO.

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    Re: GOP plans $1 trillion Medicaid cut

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    that would be the one Obama ignored in his budget recommendations, right?
    Obama budget falls far short of debt commission savings plan - The Hill's On The Money
    President Obama’s 2012 budget request to be released on Monday will reduce budget deficits over the next decade by only a quarter of the amount proposed by the presidential debt commission in December, a senior administration official confirmed Sunday.
    yeah. and even that turned out to be wildly optimistic.

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