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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now that I've read other posts on this thread, I have some second thoughts. I mistakenly thought that the women were being encouraged to wear this head scarves when they were in safe zones; now I see that the military is suggesting they wear them all the time...bright colorful scarves? [/U]
    Does seem to work against the whole notion of camouflage doesn't it?
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

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    Does seem to work against the whole notion of camouflage doesn't it?
    Sure does. Also allows the enemy to target females. What's up with that??
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Sure does. Also allows the enemy to target females. What's up with that??
    Do know that Females don't do foot Patrols right?

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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If only modern warfare was actually as simple as that...

    There is nothing "simple" about fighting a war. Every war is different because they each deal with different circumstances, people, eras etc. It's the staying focused part that should remain a constant.

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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Sure does. Also allows the enemy to target females. What's up with that??
    What's a little extra danger for women if it means making people feel more comfortable around us?
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    There is nothing "simple" about fighting a war. Every war is different because they each deal with different circumstances, people, eras etc. It's the staying focused part that should remain a constant.
    In a counterinsurgency, the "staying focused" part doesn't exclude interacting with the local population, especially when you need their help to identify who the bad guys are and who is planting the IEDs.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Do know that Females don't do foot Patrols right?
    Doesn't mean that they can't be targeted though, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but it's not like all females stay inside the wire all the time.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Do know that Females don't do foot Patrols right?
    I don't even know what a foot patrol is, honestly. I'm thinking like -- there's 8 soldiers in an open truck...or 8 soldiers in a group -- and that scarves would tell the enemy who of the group were female. I seem to remember that soldiers don't salute their superiors when in harm's way. My thoughts are a little like that...
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now that I've read other posts on this thread, I have some second thoughts. I mistakenly thought that the women were being encouraged to wear this head scarves when they were in safe zones; now I see that the military is suggesting they wear them all the time...bright colorful scarves? Maybe we should have all company commanders wear some identifying insignia when they're in harm's way.

    I hope our American women in Afghanistan who choose to wear them choose helmet-matching scarves....and take them off when the bullets start to fly. It seems odd to me that the military would suggest that women identify themselves in battle.
    Yeah, and in a country that is known for oppressing women and committing some atrosity against them and/or murdering them, they want to draw attention to female soldiers. In a country where the male ego is so fagile it has to slaughter girls and/or women for whatever God knows reason. In a country where females are the indangered species, so to speak.

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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Doesn't mean that they can't be targeted though, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but it's not like all females stay inside the wire all the time.
    For the most part they do.

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