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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Wearing a hijab may not always mean subjugation of women, but you can't say that it never does. Is everything worthy of respect simply because it's a cultural practice?
    Do you seriously expect me to believe that it would mean subjugation if a female soldier in the United States military wore one out of respect -- whether she did it because she was ordered to or because she felt it was appropriate to?

    When you have the ability, or belong to an organization that has the ability to wipe an entire civilization off the face of the map forever, it's called being polite.
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Uh huh, and as a sailor, where you ever asked to actually alter your uniform? I thought military uniforms were strictly regulated. Is that not the case?
    There where times when we were not allowed to wear our uniform on liberty(not that we particularly wanted to), and times when we would modify when we went covered.

    Wearing a hijab may not always mean subjugation of women, but you can't say that it never does. Is everything worthy of respect simply because it's a cultural practice?
    Never claimed it never meant that, just that in this context it does not.
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Do you seriously expect me to believe that it would mean subjugation if a female soldier in the United States military wore one out of respect -- whether she did it because she was ordered to or because she felt it was appropriate to?

    When you have the ability, or belong to an organization that has the ability to wipe an entire civilization off the face of the map forever, it's called being polite.
    Speaking of believing things, do you still disbelieve that that reporter was kept in the closet at the Biden fundraiser? I know that's off topic here, but you, oddly, never went back to that thread after Biden's spokeswoman apologized for it. LOL
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Speaking of believing things, do you still disbelieve that that reporter was kept in the closet at the Biden fundraiser? I know that's off topic here, but you, oddly, never went back to that thread after Biden's spokeswoman apologized for it. LOL
    In other words, when I point out the absurdity of your question, you've got no retort.


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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    I see no issue with this.

    British and American Soldiers should do everything possible to respect their culture.
    Makes sense to try and bridge a cultural gap which would in turn increase trust

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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    In other words, when I point out the absurdity of your question, you've got no retort.
    My question was whether something should be respected just because it's cultural. Is that an absurd question?


    TED,
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    Really? Because it looked like TED left right about the time he was definitively proven wrong.
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    My question was whether something should be respected just because it's cultural. Is that an absurd question?
    I was very clearly addressing your comment, "Wearing a hijab may not always mean subjugation of women, but you can't say that it never does." Please address what I said in the context which I said it.

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    Really? Because it looked like TED left right about the time he was definitively proven wrong.
    You can knock it off with the misdirection anytime now. Unless, of course, you're all out of argument on the subject.
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    My question was whether something should be respected just because it's cultural. Is that an absurd question?
    It's not an absurd question, but I think a flawed one. I do not respect muslim beliefs personally, while respecting the right of countries like Afghanistan to choose their beliefs. Trying to do little things to fit in and be more accepted by the locals is not the same thing as saying "I think your beliefs are great".

    Further, the importance of things like this cannot be overstated. If the populace has a positive opinion of our troops, it makes the job over there just a little bit easier. And that is part of a soldiers job. This is not an affirmation of Muslim beliefs.
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    Re: Female U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan ‘Encouraged’ to Wear Hijab

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I see no issue with this.

    British and American Soldiers should do everything possible to respect their culture.
    Makes sense to try and bridge a cultural gap which would in turn increase trust
    Nah, **** trust, let's just turn the country into a parking lot and build a military base on it.
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