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    Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a future Am

    WASHINGTON – Democrats continued to take shots at Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) days after he made remarks questioning the future of Social Security, as the GOP majority leader insisted his words were over-interpreted.

    On a conference call Thursday, Rep. Jan Schakowsky's (D-IL) told reporters that Cantor's remarks were "stunning" and "so completely out of touch" with ordinary Americans.
    Here is the way I see it - If Republicans gain enough control to eliminate Social Security, then they had better damn well give me the money back that they have been taking from me for almost 50 years. If they don't, then I can damn well guarantee that senior citizens, refusing to be floated out to sea on icebergs, will declare war on the robber barons who stole their money. These are the very same assholes who smack the Democrats over statements of "redistribution of wealth", and "class warfare". If they steal the money of senior citizens, THEY will be the ones who are redistributing wealth (from old folks to corporate cronies), it WILL be class warfare, and I, like many other seniors, won't take it sitting down. You will see protests and civil disobedience the likes you have never imagined in your wildest "tea induced" hallucinations. What will you do then? Shoot us all down, in front of the entire world? Because that is the only way you will be able to stop it. Old people who have nothing to lose will be your worst nightmare.

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    NOTE 1: Just engaging in a little hyperbole here, to counteract the bat**** crazy hyperbole of Eric Cantor. I know that it will never come to this because most Republicans aren't bat**** crazy, like a few of them are. Thank God for reasonable people on both sides of the aisle. LOL.

    NOTE 2: What the hell was Cantor thinking when he said what he said? Whatever drugs he was on, give me a six pack. They must be pretty damn good.
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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Being retired I believe there are enough of us out here to make sure this never happens in our life times. I started paying into SS a very long time ago and I have only recently retired and plan to get some of my contributions back before I give up this life.

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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the way I see it - If Republicans gain enough control to eliminate Social Security, then they had better damn well give me the money back that they have been taking from me for almost 50 years. If they don't, then I can damn well guarantee that senior citizens, refusing to be floated out to sea on icebergs, will declare war on the robber barons who stole their money.
    i believe that would be every congress since the 1970's. Long story short, your money was stolen first to pay for the Great Society, then revamping the military, and then the bailouts.

    These are the very same assholes who smack the Democrats over statements of "redistribution of wealth", and "class warfare". If they steal the money of senior citizens, THEY will be the ones who are redistributing wealth (from old folks to corporate cronies)
    what? dude, that already happened. Social Security money has been getting spent for decades on pet projects.

    it WILL be class warfare, and I, like many other seniors, won't take it sitting down.
    well, as a young person, i have no intention of letting the baby boomers finally achieve their apparent goal of destroying this country.

    NO, i am not willing to declare bankruptcy so that you can force me to guarantee you that which you should have been saving for all along.

    You will see protests and civil disobedience the likes you have never imagined in your wildest "tea induced" hallucinations. What will you do then? Shoot us all down, in front of the entire world?
    close Ryan's and Quincy's. Denied your food source, you will weaken and negotiate

    NOTE 1: Just engaging in a little hyperbole here, to counteract the bat**** crazy hyperbole of Eric Cantor. I know that it will never come to this because most Republicans aren't bat**** crazy, like a few of them are. Thank God for reasonable people on both sides of the aisle. LOL.
    it's not crazy. it's mathematics. Social Security (and Medicare too) will not survive as we know it. either they will go, or the country will go, followed by them going anyway. our unfunded liability for these two programs alone is larger than WORLD GDP. even if we WEREN'T already up to our eyeballs in debt, we just plain can't afford it.

    REALITY: we have probably until about 2020 to seriously reform our entitlement system. after that, we're going to have to be throwing old people out into the cold, no hyperbole.

    NOTE 2: What the hell was Cantor thinking when he said what he said?
    he was probably thinking of the actual numbers involved. Republicans have said they will offer entitlement reform as part of their budget; given that most of the American populace is uneducated (as you apparently are) about the realities of this situation, it's a breathtakingly brave (though desperately necessary) move.
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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Being retired I believe there are enough of us out here to make sure this never happens in our life times
    the numbers are pretty much solid on this. it will happen in your lifetime. the question is do you want it to happen now so that current retirees aren't effected, or do you want it to happen ten years from now where we have the unpleasant options of declaring government bankruptcy (destroying the world economy), hyperinflation (destroying the world economy), or simply cutting off the vast majority of entitlement recipients (if indeed we keep any).

    hey, old people vote. if ya'll are really willing to trade another decade of living in blissful denial for destroying your country and enslaving your children and grandchildren, ya'll are free to try.

    but i have two young sons whom i love with all my heart and i will fight you to the bone scraping last.

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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Being retired I believe there are enough of us out here to make sure this never happens in our life times. I started paying into SS a very long time ago and I have only recently retired and plan to get some of my contributions back before I give up this life.
    So you want yours and the rest of the country be damned. Got it.


    YOU old er folks never kept a good reign on the politicians, the signs of SS being raided, ripped, and ruined were there for all to see... you didn't care.

    And thus we, the ones paying for your error don't care bout YOU.
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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    You leftists persist in refusing to address the fact that FDR's Ponzi scheme is coming to an end. ALL pyramid schemes fall eventually. The issue isn't that the Ponzi scheme is collapsing, no. The issue is that you people not only refuse to even admit this, but you're also stealing the money and using it elsewhere, thus making the problem even worse, then you people compound the problem by declaring that Clinton had a balanced budget when he never did. He was playing Ken Lay games with Social Security.

    Those of us on the right who have been watching since long before the start of the avalanche have been pushing for privatized social security with it's eventual phase out, "eventual" meaning over fifty years or so, and the implementation of a solid healthy, market based private investment plan in which the retiree owns his account and which is, of course, his money, not the government's.

    Those last last five words are the reason the left still refuses to consider any form of social security reform.

    The whiner complaining that he's put into the program and wants his money back is fooling himself if he believes he'll not get it back. Repayment of capital has never been the problem SS. That's typically done in the first couple of years. It's the freeloading he expects to do for the following thirty that causes all the problems.

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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    So you want yours and the rest of the country be damned. Got it.


    YOU old er folks never kept a good reign on the politicians, the signs of SS being raided, ripped, and ruined were there for all to see... you didn't care.

    And thus we, the ones paying for your error don't care bout YOU.
    Ah, quit yer bitchin', it was the college brats that voted for Obama, voted for Kerry, voted for Albore, voted for Clinton, and voted for all the lesser Democrats and thus made any effort to do even marginal reforms to that Ponzi scheme impossible.

    Lot's and lot's of Mayor Snorkum's peers, and the good Mayor himself, have voted consistently against candidates pushin the leftist line, and that includes the Mayor's refusal to vote for Bush.

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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Ah, quit yer bitchin', it was the college brats that voted for Obama, voted for Kerry, voted for Albore, voted for Clinton, and voted for all the lesser Democrats and thus made any effort to do even marginal reforms to that Ponzi scheme impossible.
    Great ideas like privatizing it... just before massive shocks to our economy, that wouldve been pleasant.

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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Great ideas like privatizing it... just before massive shocks to our economy, that wouldve been pleasant.
    which, of course, would still have left low-income retirees better off than social security as it stand today.

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    Re: Schakowsky tears into Cantor for saying Social Security ‘cannot exist’ in a futur

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the numbers are pretty much solid on this. it will happen in your lifetime. the question is do you want it to happen now so that current retirees aren't effected, or do you want it to happen ten years from now where we have the unpleasant options of declaring government bankruptcy (destroying the world economy), hyperinflation (destroying the world economy), or simply cutting off the vast majority of entitlement recipients (if indeed we keep any).

    hey, old people vote. if ya'll are really willing to trade another decade of living in blissful denial for destroying your country and enslaving your children and grandchildren, ya'll are free to try.

    but i have two young sons whom i love with all my heart and i will fight you to the bone scraping last.
    Or we could employ a rational taxation system, coupled with publicly funded elections, which would allow us to actually elect effective people who would then be beholden to us

    Who would then be free to do what we elect them to do. Instead of spending half their time getting enough money to run, and the other half paying those debts back.

    Then we could all be friends instead.

    Just a simple spitball of another possible option that could work, based on my extremely jaded opinion of human nature.

    There's WAY too much consensus in WAY too many conservative arguments. Consensus is NOT normal human behavior.

    Just sayin'.
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