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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post


    Why does endangering others a crime? Think about it. What is the crime in endangering others? Should using power from a coal plant be considered endangering others? Should that be a crime?
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    You have no right to put other people in danger. You talk about personal freedom, but what about the freedom of people not to be put in danger if they don't choose it themselves?
    Drunk driving is like firing your weapon indicriminately out into the street. If you want to play Russian Roulette in your own home, be my guest. But you have no right to force me to play.

    Your coal power plant analogy might work if people had much of a choice as to where they get their power from. Most of us pretty much get the electricity from the power company and don't have a lot of say about how it's done. It may surprise you, but coal power plants don't bother me a lot. We need the electricity, and it has to come from somewhere.

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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
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    You have no right to put other people in danger. You talk about personal freedom, but what about the freedom of people not to be put in danger if they don't choose it themselves?
    I didn't abridge your rights by endangering your life.
    I didn't abridge your liberty
    and I didn't need you to allow me to do it.

    I have the right.
    Drunk driving is like firing your weapon indicriminately out into the street. If you want to play Russian Roulette in your own home, be my guest. But you have no right to force me to play.
    Who is forcing you to play?

    Your coal power plant analogy might work if people had much of a choice as to where they get their power from. Most of us pretty much get the electricity from the power company and don't have a lot of say about how it's done. It may surprise you, but coal power plants don't bother me a lot. We need the electricity, and it has to come from somewhere.
    You need electricity? Why? Because of your life style? So your life style is essential to your life? Again, no one is forcing you to use the electricity from coal plants. You make a choice that you want it to live your life. You could just make another choice.

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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post

    I have the right.


    Who is forcing you to play?



    You need electricity? Why? Because of your life style? So your life style is essential to your life? Again, no one is forcing you to use the electricity from coal plants. You make a choice that you want it to live your life. You could just make another choice.
    You don't have the right to put other people in danger. Sorry you just don't. I have the right to live my life as I please, I have the right to not get killed or disabled because some asshole was drunk. Maybe you live way out in East Jesus Nowhere where you never see anybody else. I live in a major American city, and not the suburbs either.

    When you drive drunk in my neighborhood, it means that I can't walk on my street. It means that I can't park my car on the side of the road. You are forcing me to play your little life and death game. So yes, it does abridge my liberty.

    Should someone just have the right to walk up and down my street spraying gunfire all over the place?

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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    I already told you why I do, and I already told you its not forcing you to do anything. You can continue to say it does if you wish, it doesn't matter to me. You can walk in the street, the danger that might be there or not does not stop you from doing it. If you want to walk in the street and not pay attention, go right ahead, but drunk drivers is not your problem.

    Oh and I'm not religious, but nice strawman with the "Jesus nowhere" comment.
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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

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    Oh and I'm not religious, but nice strawman with the "Jesus nowhere" comment.[/QUOTE]

    You have no idea what I was talking about do you?

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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    I honesty don't care.

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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I didn't abridge your rights by endangering your life.
    I have a god given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You endangering that life is most certainly abridging my rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have the right.
    Not to put me in danger, no. If you want to go base jumping or surf the ten meter waves, then, by all means, do so. I don't want to share the highway with some ****** drunk.
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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not sure how people drive in Washington DC, but here in Cali there are so many tailgaters, speeders, weavers from lane to lane, and assorted imbeciles on the road that there is no way any trooper is going to be interested in stopping me. Threre are just too many better choices. Look, did you see that guy just exit the freeway from the left lane? No cops around, pity. How about that SUV the size of a Freightliner driving half a car length behind another vehicle. I wonder if he bought that monster just so he could intimidate other drivers? Probably so.

    I've been driving since '58, and have never had a ticket in California. I did get a $2 ticket in New York back in '66 for making an illegal right turn, but never in the Golden State. There are just too many crazy drivers for me to get any attention from the CHP.
    LMAO.. this style of driving is SOP here is Boston, you need to really and I mean really F up to get pulled over here is Boston and when you do...then you deserve it. The state troopers here in MA. are alright in my book, they understand what goes on and so on, but if your F'en up they will catch you.

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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I honesty don't care.
    Then don't go accusing me of throwing strawmen about when you have no idea what I mean.

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    Re: Montana Republican Senator Bashes DWI Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I have a god given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You endangering that life is most certainly abridging my rights.
    None of those are abridged if you don't die.

    Not to put me in danger, no. If you want to go base jumping or surf the ten meter waves, then, by all means, do so. I don't want to share the highway with some ****** drunk.
    By all means make a choice to not.

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