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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    "In my mind it's not a matter of if the law goes back (into effect), it's just a matter of when," Walker said.
    yeah. He really backed down there, huh libs...:

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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Why? State Workers already agreed to the proposed cuts. If he did that, it would be out of spite, not in an attempt to balance the budget.
    Read the link. If it's not there it's somewhere else and I'll find it. The cuts are not allowed to go into effect. Nothing has changed for teachers.
    He said from the start he needed to do this to keep from laying anyone off. The Union thugs don't give a **** about those jobs. They just want to make sure they keep getting those union dues. A few hundred or a few thousand jobs won't make that much difference to them. What they needed to stop, was workers being given a choice. Maybe they succeeded. Good for the Union, bad for the layed-off teachers, bad for the students, bad for non-union tax payers.
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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    yeah. He really backed down there, huh libs...:
    They violated the Wisconsin open meeting law, so why don't they just give the proper notice and vote again? It's that simple.

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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Read the link. If it's not there it's somewhere else and I'll find it. The cuts are not allowed to go into effect. Nothing has changed for teachers.
    He said from the start he needed to do this to keep from laying anyone off. The Union thugs don't give a **** about those jobs. They just want to make sure they keep getting those union dues. A few hundred or a few thousand jobs won't make that much difference to them. What they needed to stop, was workers being given a choice. Maybe they succeeded. Good for the Union, bad for the layed-off teachers, bad for the students, bad for non-union tax payers.
    I would agree with you barb if Walker hadnt given a large tax break to corporations as soon as he got elected, before he started screaming about having to layoff. You dont give revenue away then say you dont have enough coming in and have to layoff workers and cut pay and pensions. He could have waited and gave the tax after dealing with public employees.
    I wonder if people realize how many public workers are republicans and vote republican no matter what their union does. I think the number would be startling to some.

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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    They violated the Wisconsin open meeting law, so why don't they just give the proper notice and vote again? It's that simple.
    That will be determined by a judge later. YOU saying it doesn't make it reality, regardless of how much importance you put in your own word.

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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    They violated the Wisconsin open meeting law, so why don't they just give the proper notice and vote again? It's that simple.
    Greta Van Sustern has tried to beat that idea into Walkers peoples heads several times. They kept saying, no, things are going along fine. We'll get there, we just need to be patient, blah blah blah. Wonder what they're saying now?
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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Read the link. If it's not there it's somewhere else and I'll find it. The cuts are not allowed to go into effect. Nothing has changed for teachers.
    He said from the start he needed to do this to keep from laying anyone off. The Union thugs don't give a **** about those jobs. They just want to make sure they keep getting those union dues. A few hundred or a few thousand jobs won't make that much difference to them. What they needed to stop, was workers being given a choice. Maybe they succeeded. Good for the Union, bad for the layed-off teachers, bad for the students, bad for non-union tax payers.
    Interesting.

    Like I said, the government employees all agreed to the cuts, the reason this is going on is because Walker insisted on the removal of collective bargaining.

    If he had passed the two issues separately, then he wouldn't be able to make this argument that removing collective bargaining = hurting the budget.
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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I would agree with you barb if Walker hadnt given a large tax break to corporations as soon as he got elected, before he started screaming about having to layoff. You dont give revenue away then say you dont have enough coming in and have to layoff workers and cut pay and pensions. He could have waited and gave the tax after dealing with public employees.
    I wonder if people realize how many public workers are republicans and vote republican no matter what their union does. I think the number would be startling to some.
    The difference between liberals and conservatives, is conservatives look at tax breaks and tax cuts as job creaters, not lost revenue. Should he have waited. Probably, but they don't go into effect until later anyway. It wouldn't make a difference to the lay-offs.
    I realize many public workers are Republicans, that's why it's disgusting that almost all the union money goes to Dems.
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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    That will be determined by a judge later. YOU saying it doesn't make it reality, regardless of how much importance you put in your own word.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Greta Van Sustern has tried to beat that idea into Walkers peoples heads several times. They kept saying, no, things are going along fine. We'll get there, we just need to be patient, blah blah blah. Wonder what they're saying now?
    Like I said they are accused of violating the Wisconsin open meetings law - that's the reason the 'law' on hold. The solution would be to just take another vote giving the proper notification. The problem doing this, is that they may not have the votes to get it passed again.

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    Re: Scott Walker Backs Down, Will Comply With Judge's Ruling On Union Law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Interesting.

    Like I said, the government employees all agreed to the cuts, the reason this is going on is because Walker insisted on the removal of collective bargaining.

    If he had passed the two issues separately, then he wouldn't be able to make this argument that removing collective bargaining = hurting the budget.
    Removing part of the collective bargaining is the only guarantee the other things will stick and the same problem won't come up again.
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