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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm betting most people calling him crazy and not electable, didn't know his platform at all.
    For a crazy fella he was convincing enough to get 15% of people to like him, IIRC.
    Not sure, I think I was 14 at the time and all I can remember were his jerky movements, his weird inflection, and his odd mannerisms, which was the basis of my wacky comment. He was like a cartoon character. I never once looked at his (or anyone's platform)

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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Not sure, I think I was 14 at the time and all I can remember were his jerky movements, his weird inflection, and his odd mannerisms, which was the basis of my wacky comment. He was like a cartoon character. I never once looked at his (or anyone's platform)
    Wacky isn't crazy.

    I mean to say those that make the popular comments about him being unelectable.
    He had a decent platform, not great but I'd rather vote for him than any Dem or Rep, if just to break the 2 party cartel.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm betting most people calling him crazy and not electable, didn't know his platform at all.
    For a crazy fella he was convincing enough to get 15% of people to like him, IIRC.
    his reputation as a crank may have something to do with his reason for his temporary withdrawal from the race.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Wacky isn't crazy.

    I mean to say those that make the popular comments about him being unelectable.
    He had a decent platform, not great but I'd rather vote for him than any Dem or Rep, if just to break the 2 party cartel.
    I just looked, I don't think I called him crazy, at least I couldn't find it.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I just looked, I don't think I called him crazy, at least I couldn't find it.
    I was talking about other people, not you.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    his reputation as a crank may have something to do with his reason for his temporary withdrawal from the race.
    Yea but I read a nifty book on it.
    He was yo-yo'd about, whether or not, he would get to debate Clinton and Bush 1.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, we call that making **** up. You have supplied zero data, just a bunch of claims. You have in fact done less than Nate Silver, and done nothing to make your claim at all supported. Quality work!
    I made the claim that tea party polling has been all over the map. It has. Even the Nate Silver graph shows that to be true. In some places there’s a 20 point swing depending on who’s doing the polling.

    Now, you’re trying to make a claim that there is a "definite trend." Why should I or anyone who understands data believe you (or do anything other than laugh at you) given the "proof" you’ve provided?

    I’m always amused when people who can only blindly link to the work of others accuse me of thinking for myself.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    So do you have a chart with a seperate trendline for each polling organisation for usto verify your thinking that "they don't agree"?
    I don't, but I really don't need one. I've pointed out that the methodology is flawed. Knowing that, only a blind partisan would *assume* the data to be accurate. If you think there's merit despite the problems I've outlined, it's up to you to argue why.

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    If the questions are the same, why can't he aggregate the polls? Sometimes, the bigger the sample, the more accurate the result is likely to be.
    First, the questions aren't the same, and this is another glaring error from this idiot who pretends to be a statistician. If they were the same, it would certainly lend more credibility, but even then, different polling organizations use different sampling techniques and even order effects can play a huge a role.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    this idiot who pretends to be a statistician.
    Nate Silver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Silver first gained public recognition for developing PECOTA,[2] a system for forecasting the performance and career development of Major League Baseball players, which he sold to and then managed for Baseball Prospectus from 2003 to 2009.[3]

    The accuracy of his November 2008 presidential election predictions – he correctly predicted the winner of 49 of the 50 states – won Silver further attention and commendation. The only state he missed was Indiana, which went for Barack Obama by 0.9%. He also correctly predicted the winner of all 35 Senate races that year.

    In April 2009, he was named one of The World's 100 Most Influential People by TIME Magazine.[4]

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    Re: CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I made the claim that tea party polling has been all over the map. It has. Even the Nate Silver graph shows that to be true. In some places there’s a 20 point swing depending on who’s doing the polling.

    Now, you’re trying to make a claim that there is a "definite trend." Why should I or anyone who understands data believe you (or do anything other than laugh at you) given the "proof" you’ve provided?

    I’m always amused when people who can only blindly link to the work of others accuse me of thinking for myself.
    Swings can also be a trend. A variable can go up and down wildly from one point to another, as long as the pattern repeats itself, it's a "trend".

    If the problem is the polling stations, then aggregating the polls might mitigate some of those problems, and yet you've come against that too.
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