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CNN Poll: Unfavorable view of tea party on the rise

ReverendHellh0und said:
maybe it was a misflow of conversation, but he responded after you made the edit, the flow of the conversation to me and seemingly to you at first had to do with your edit.
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Its a minor issue, I don't see why anyone should care. We have an article to discuss :)
 
Here, let me fix this. It was about me. I apologize. OK, back to the topic. :mrgreen:
 
What a shame. Predictable, but a shame nonetheless.
The tea party, such as it was, has been almost entirely co-opted by the establishment they seek to overthrow.

What a shame. Our system is broke and no one with the power to fix it has any incentive to do anything about it.
 
megaprogman said:
It looks like the popularity of the movement might be waning. I wonder if this is a short term blip or a longer term trend.
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Its hard to find less tax and no government intrusion less disirable. Maybe the TV is absorbing too much of the TEA party and anti-chauvinists see it as tainted. (A.K.A. maybe they think Palin will try to lead the TEA movement)
 
This is a weak attempt by CNN to try and paint the entire tea party movement as a bunch of gun-totin, barefoot hillbiliies, and then try to then paint the Republican party with the same brush.

It's akin to saying every Democrat is a member of Code Pink.
 
This is merely my humble opinion. I was very excited over the teaparty and I attended 3 or 4 local teaparty Rallies. At those rallies I saw all working class americans mostly babyboomer types. We were scared to death of what we were seeing in our country. We never would have believed the debt we were falling into. They were afraid of the rise of china and Obamacare and the taking of 500 billion from medicare and on and on.
After the election the perception became that the teaparty was giving away tax cuts like candy, they crying that we were broke and blaming public workers for it and attacking them and that isnt playing well with america. Most republicans are not far right and are working class americans public and private sector.
They should be attacking illegal immigration, Foriegn aid..Im all for defunding for ridiculous organizations like ACLU, AARP, planned parenthood, the outright attack and rhetoric against the working class has turned me and many others off the teaparty.
I dont care what all my conservative friends say on this forum...Scott Walker acted like he was a god or The chief storm trooper...first thing he does is give away big corporate tax cuts then viciously attack the working class and Dictating, Scott walker caused all the chaos in Wisc by his actions, his domineering rhetoric and his actions. He did it ALL WRONG. He could have gotten everything he wanted like Ohio without the gestapo crap and vilifying the workers.
He didnt do what christie has done..Christie has had town hall meetings after town hall meetings EXPLAINING why hes doing what hes doing without vilifying the workers...he isnt playing the blame game.
The teaparty needs to back off attacking the working class and giving the perception all our debt woes are their fault...or they will continue to slide.
Simple truth the super majority in this country is the working class.
 
apdst said:
This is just more proof that the Democrats, along with their supporters are scared ****less of the American People.

I say it's a great day in this country, when our government is that afraid of the people.
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Actually, I think the poll is saying the people are scared ****less of Angle and O Donnel...
 
Erod said:
This is a weak attempt by CNN to try and paint the entire tea party movement as a bunch of gun-totin, barefoot hillbiliies, and then try to then paint the Republican party with the same brush.

It's akin to saying every Democrat is a member of Code Pink.
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Thats probably true
 
Simon W. Moon said:
What a shame. Predictable, but a shame nonetheless.
The tea party, such as it was, has been almost entirely co-opted by the establishment they seek to overthrow.

What a shame. Our system is broke and no one with the power to fix it has any incentive to do anything about it.
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That is what happens with loose organizations that truly do not ask for strict adherence to specific policy measures. With populist movements, you need broad-based appeal, which incidentally will not include most libertarian positions. Those bemoaning the success of the movement have no one to blame but themselves.
 
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What if...? said:
Excellent post.

But Maggie is correct to examine how polls are worded.

Wordsmithing IS everything nowadays.
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I didn't agree with her outright dismissal. A better response would have been to seek more info.
 
megaprogman said:
I didn't agree with her outright dismissal. A better response would have been to seek more info.
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I understand and wasn't criticizing. Polling is often just a PR feedback loop. What "messaging" is working, etc. I don't trust any poll results on their face, as they can be so easily manipulated to give a selected impression. By asking leading questions or cherrypicking the results.

I don't think she was just dismissing the poll itself, but commenting on something similar to the above. And the need to consider the source. I've seen enough of her posts by now to know she probably read your links about the questions.

Great thread, by the way.:2wave:
 
megaprogman said:
It looks like the popularity of the movement might be waning. I wonder if this is a short term blip or a longer term trend.
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A very good thing to wonder. Tea party polling has been all over the map.

Here's something from last summer, just a few months before the Democrats suffered major losses that culminated from the momentum generated by the tea party:

June 2010
Poll: The sagging popularity of the tea parties
A new Washington Post/ABC News poll includes questions about the tea parties that have the nascent movement's popularity slipping badly. Overall, since the last poll, the percentage of Americans who hold an unfavorable view of the movement has jumped from 39 percent to 50 percent. The leading edge of that has been a collapse in support from 18-29-year-olds. In March, they had a positive, 43-38 view of the tea parties. They've swung hard to a negative view, 27-60.
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And even closer to that election:
September 2010
Nationally, however, the CBS/ New York Times poll shows that among those with an opinion, more view the Tea Party unfavorably (29 percent) than favorably (23 percent).

Just 19 percent of Americans in this poll say they support the Tea Party movement, while 63 percent say they do not.
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Simon W. Moon said:
What a shame. Predictable, but a shame nonetheless.
The tea party, such as it was, has been almost entirely co-opted by the establishment they seek to overthrow.

What a shame. Our system is broke and no one with the power to fix it has any incentive to do anything about it.
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Thank you so much. For a while, I thought I was all alone in thinking this, and I have taken a lot of heat for it too. :)
 
Taylor said:
A very good thing to wonder. Tea party polling has been all over the map.

Here's something from last summer, just a few months before the Democrats suffered major losses that culminated from the momentum generated by the tea party:



And even closer to that election:
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Actually, if you look at the link Mega supplied, while there are some definite highs and lows, there is also a definite trend among unfavorable opinions. That is what we call using data to back up a claim.
 
Redress said:
The link I was referring to was there all the time, and you looked at the wrong part of it. We are talking "unfavorable"(see thread title), which has gone in a year and a half from under 20 to over 40 %.
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Well with the revelation about Bernanke keeping secrets, that's liable to change soon. The Tea Party was right, bunch of slimeballs running the money departments in DC.
 
American said:
Well with the revelation about Bernanke keeping secrets, that's liable to change soon. The Tea Party was right, bunch of slimeballs running the money departments in DC.
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When was the last time that wasn't happening :thinking:
 
Jetboogieman said:
When was the last time that wasn't happening :thinking:
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I don't remember foreign banks making a run on the FED under any other administration.
 
Redress said:
Actually, if you look at the link Mega supplied, while there are some definite highs and lows, there is also a definite trend among unfavorable opinions. That is what we call using data to back up a claim.
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I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say... in part because you didn't actually use any data to back up your claim. What do you consider a "definite trend?"
 
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