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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, airstrikes in Bosnia didn't work. The Serbian Army slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Bosnian Muslims, then were allowed to march home, under arms and intact. Absolutely nothing was accomplished in Bosnia.

    Bottom line is, you can't win a war from the air.
    Yes lets not forget the biggest genocide and mass killing since the holocaust took place under a no fly zone, the temptation to send ground troops into Libya may be too much if the situation gets really desperate.

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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, airstrikes in Bosnia didn't work. The Serbian Army slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Bosnian Muslims, then were allowed to march home, under arms and intact. Absolutely nothing was accomplished in Bosnia.

    Bottom line is, you can't win a war from the air.
    Amen to that.
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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    didn't forget to mention anything. It wasn't the topic of discussion.
    To ignore the actual impact and effectiveness of the weaponry you identified, would be a direct censorship of the action. Perhaps an attempt to sanitize the issue or lead to false conclusions by omission. Since boots on the ground would be the next step, that should be addressed in an International context, not a partisan context. A link is attached addressing that issue.

    LINK < Libya: The law is clear - it is illegal to arm the "rebels" - English pravda.ru >

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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    To ignore the actual impact and effectiveness of the weaponry you identified, would be a direct censorship of the action. Perhaps an attempt to sanitize the issue or lead to false conclusions by omission. Since boots on the ground would be the next step, that should be addressed in an International context, not a partisan context. A link is attached addressing that issue.

    LINK < Libya: The law is clear - it is illegal to arm the "rebels" - English pravda.ru >
    Says the man who uses Pravda as a source :

    Just because one person doesn't talk about something YOU want to discuss, doesn't make it censorship.
    Last edited by Whovian; 03-31-11 at 10:59 AM.

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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Have we actually decided yet that we're going "to bring Muammar Gaddafi to justice?"

    Last I heard, we weren't committed to anything of the sort. I know that many in govt have expressed the desire that MomoQ leave Libya, but that's not the same as bringing "Muammar Gaddafi to justice."
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    We already have boots on the ground:

    The American President, Barack Obama, has reportedly given authorisation to the CIA to conduct covert operations to help rebel forces in Libya.Reuters and ABC News claim that Mr Obama signed a "finding" document, however neither the CIA nor the President's spokesman were willing to confirm that such assistance had been granted.

    Other reports say that CIA operatives have been in Libya for a number of weeks and have been used to make contact with rebel forces, gather information for possible air strike targets and to rescue crew members of a US F-15E Eagle, which crashed last week. British intelligence personnel are also believed to be operating in Libya.
    Apparently CIA boots don't count.

    http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/12902...ns-reports.htm
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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We already have boots on the ground:



    Apparently CIA boots don't count.

    Libya: Obama gives green light for CIA operations - reports - International Business Times
    Maybe they're wearing wingtips instead?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Maybe they're wearing wingtips instead?
    Now that was funny. Thanks.
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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    More as part of the stabilization force after the real conflict was over, though.


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    Re: The U.S. may not send troops to Libya, but American soldiers could still go

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Have we actually decided yet that we're going "to bring Muammar Gaddafi to justice?"

    Last I heard, we weren't committed to anything of the sort. I know that many in govt have expressed the desire that MomoQ leave Libya, but that's not the same as bringing "Muammar Gaddafi to justice."


    Obama's still voting "present"
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