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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Just because it is a talking point doesn't make it untrue. It just makes it a point of emphasis.
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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    And, was there any disagreement with what was said? No? Didn't think so.

    Then Biden tells a lot of truth.
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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    And, your point is … ?
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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ok, but now we know that any future bashing of Boehner or the T party as being extreme is nothing but a talking point dictated by Schumer.
    You don't think the other side isn't doing the same thing?

    The simple fact is that its a talking point to summarize the events according to a perspective. Talking points are only bad if one mindlessly repeats them and doesn't understand why the point exists in the first place. Politicians tend to be above average intelligence and generally are aware of the goings on of politics.
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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    It's all politics baby. It's all spin and one-sidedness. Nobody is interested in the full picture, on what is actually reality. Today, listening to NPR I found myself disgusted to listen to Harry Reid and the Congressional Dem leadership accusing Republicans of trying to destroy Social Security, and found myself agreeing with Eric Cantor. That's how sad our politics have become.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Just because it is a talking point doesn't make it untrue. It just makes it a point of emphasis.
    Yeah, when we want the Dems opinion we'll have to wait until Schumer gives it to them.
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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ok, but now we know that any future bashing of Boehner or the T party as being extreme is nothing but a talking point dictated by Schumer.
    You think all republicans started calling it "the job killing healthcare bill" on their own? lol.

    Talk points could be true or not true. They are just there to make it easier for a politician to keep the subject to a topic of they're choosing. Everyone does it, it's nothing new, it's nothing outrageous, it's not breaking news. Give up.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You don't think the other side isn't doing the same thing?
    Given that I've recently heard Republicans criticize other Republicans, leading some to believe there's a GOP "civil war", the GOP must just not be that good at it.
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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Given that I've recently heard Republicans criticize other Republicans, leading some to believe there's a GOP "civil war", the GOP must just not be that good at it.
    Thats because the GOP is fracturing at the moment, however, I am quite certain each faction has their own similar meetings.

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    Re: On a Senate Call, a Glimpse of Marching Orders

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yeah, when we want the Dems opinion we'll have to wait until Schumer gives it to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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