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Media Matters to launch campaign of "guerrilla warfare and sabotage" against Fox News

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The best hatchet-men George Soros' money can buy.
 
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Yes, I support it. The "news" on Fox is a lot too creative.
 
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And this is different from anything MM has done in the past how?
 
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I see it more as two entities both exercising their free speech, going at it with each other.

I dont know...(I mean that...I DONT know...) does Fox go after Media Matters? I know that 'media' doesnt matter to MM...Fox news is ALL that matters. They dont go after CNN, or ABC, or MSNBC. Which is really kinda stupid...Fox has its viewers...they do their advertising, and then MSNBC and MM and any NUMBER of assclowns on this website make it their business to promote and advertise MORE for them by attacking them 24/7. Its no wonder Fox news kills everyone else in viewership...half of them are morons that hate their guts so much they cant stop thinking about them.
 
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I dont know...(I mean that...I DONT know...) does Fox go after Media Matters? I know that 'media' doesnt matter to MM...Fox news is ALL that matters. They dont go after CNN, or ABC, or MSNBC. Which is really kinda stupid...Fox has its viewers...they do their advertising, and then MSNBC and MM and any NUMBER of assclowns on this website make it their business to promote and advertise MORE for them by attacking them 24/7. Its no wonder Fox news kills everyone else in viewership...half of them are morons that hate their guts so much they cant stop thinking about them.

I guess "going at it with each other" wasn't the right expression. My point is, MM is exercising their right to free speech the same way anyone else does, so I don't see it as a "war on free speech," unless MM is actively lobbying or pursuing legislation to regulate Fox or take it off the air.
 
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I think MMA should change their name from 'Media Matters for America', to FOX NEWS Sucks and that's All We Want to Talk About Now'.
 
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I see it more as two entities both exercising their free speech, going at it with each other.

I note your quote and point out that free speech does not mean, indicate, imply, nor guarantee anything approximating truth. Objective news reporting would be "truth." Perspectives, partisanship, sold to so and so, and any other spin should be openly and previously acknowledged, ergo the show would be labelled entertainment or a commercial.
 
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I guess "going at it with each other" wasn't the right expression. My point is, MM is exercising their right to free speech the same way anyone else does, so I don't see it as a "war on free speech," unless MM is actively lobbying or pursuing legislation to regulate Fox or take it off the air.

Wouldnt you say that is their end game?

I dont think it matters...Fox has their supporters...and everyone else divides up their loyalties...and to me its all the same poisoned pill, which is why I dont watch TV news.
 
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I note your quote and point out that free speech does not mean, indicate, imply, nor guarantee anything approximating truth. Objective news reporting would be "truth." Perspectives, partisanship, sold to so and so, and any other spin should be openly and previously acknowledged, ergo the show would be labelled entertainment or a commercial.

Meaning...every 'news' source in the market, right?
 
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I note your quote and point out that free speech does not mean, indicate, imply, nor guarantee anything approximating truth.

I agree, and I never claimed otherwise.

Objective news reporting would be "truth."

Objectivity often exists in the eye of the beholder.

Perspectives, partisanship, sold to so and so, and any other spin should be openly and previously acknowledged, ergo the show would be labelled entertainment or a commercial.

Again, same as above. For the most part people know who the Hannitys, Palins, Becks, O'Reillys, Matthewses, and Ed Schultzes of the world are. I don't think it's news to tell anyone that the aforementioned are opinion programming.
 
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Wouldnt you say that is their end game?

They attempt to destroy/discredit Fox through their own use of free speech/spin/propaganda, and that's completely their right. If they are actively pursuing legislation in order to get the government to censor or somehow control or limit Fox's speech, I would be against that.

I dont think it matters...Fox has their supporters...and everyone else divides up their loyalties...and to me its all the same poisoned pill, which is why I dont watch TV news.

I'm with you there brother. I only watch it occasionally, because sometimes images on a screen are more powerful than words on a page, and gives you a sense of what might be going on somewhere. I don't primarily rely on cable news for my information.
 
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They attempt to destroy/discredit Fox through their own use of free speech/spin/propaganda, and that's completely their right. If they are actively pursuing legislation in order to get the government to censor or somehow control or limit Fox's speech, I would be against that.



I'm with you there brother. I only watch it occasionally, because sometimes images on a screen are more powerful than words on a page, and gives you a sense of what might be going on somewhere. I don't primarily rely on cable news for my information.

Im not suggesting they dont have the right to do what they do...just that I think its pretty comical to hold yourselves up as an unbiased defender of the media, and in doing so, expose yourselves to be far greater partisan hacks than Fox could ever be.

I pretty much rely on internet sources...read an AP article...read a linked reuters article, a few others if the story is important...somewhere in the middle is the 'truth'. I thought it was interesting yesterday that an article in the Jerusalem Post was an AP article with sources (and links) from Al Jazeera and the New York Times AND the Washington Post. Now that there is a wicked brew...
 
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Im not suggesting they dont have the right to do what they do...just that I think its pretty comical to hold yourselves up as an unbiased defender of the media, and in doing so, expose yourselves to be far greater partisan hacks than Fox could ever be.

I pretty much rely on internet sources...read an AP article...read a linked reuters article, a few others if the story is important...somewhere in the middle is the 'truth'. I thought it was interesting yesterday that an article in the Jerusalem Post was an AP article with sources (and links) from Al Jazeera and the New York Times AND the Washington Post. Now that there is a wicked brew...

Yes that's pretty much the primary knock against Media Matters around here.
 
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It sounds like a group of internet nerds having website wars to me. How childish.
 
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I say go for it. It will give me more to laugh at. And I would love to know how this is a war on free speech?
 
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Do you support this war on free press and speech?

What war would that be?
 
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I see it more as two entities both exercising their free speech, going at it with each other.

Hmmmm....It's actually more than that.

“Criticizing Fox News has nothing to do with criticizing the press,” Brock wrote in a planning memo. “Fox News is not a news organization. It is the de facto leader of the GOP, and it is long past time that it is treated as such by the media, elected officials and the public.”

From that perspective, I can certainly support this 1-on-1 battle of the partisan news entities. Essentially, what MM is saying is FoxNews has supported the GOP for so long and few media outlets have called them out on being the :spin: machine they are for the Republican party. Of course, there's sure to be a liberal slant to their news reporting just as their clearly is a conservative slant to FoxNews, but as long as what MM reportS is true and accurate, I don't have a problem with it.
 
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