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Taxing mileage a 'practical option' for revenue enhancement

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So now the government thinks it has the right to know how much I drive. Putting this kind of technology in my vehicle is an invasion of privacy and another example of big brother is watching you. Another move closer to a police state

CBO: Taxing mileage a 'practical option' for revenue enhancement - The Hill's Floor Action

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) this week released a report that said taxing people based on how many miles they drive is a possible option for raising new revenues and that these taxes could be used to offset the costs of highway maintenance at a time when federal funds are short.

The report discussed the proposal in great detail, including the development of technology that would allow total vehicle miles traveled (VMT) to be tracked, reported and taxed, as well as the pros and cons of mandating the installation of this technology in all vehicles.

"In the past, the efficiency costs of implementing a system of VMT charges — particularly the costs of users' time for slowing and queuing at tollbooths — would clearly have outweighed the potential benefits from more efficient use of highway capacity," CBO wrote. "Now, electronic metering and billing are making per-mile charges a practical option."
 
Just wait until technology advances to the point that they can measure the oxygen you take in from the atmosphere. They will meter your breathing and tax you for that as well.
 
CriticalThought said:
Just wait until technology advances to the point that they can measure the oxygen you take in from the atmosphere. They will meter your breathing and tax you for that as well.
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Well Democrats already tried taxing exhalation.........so your probably right.....
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Why isn't the fuel tax sufficient enough to tax us based on the mileage we drive? It just seems repetitive...
 
SheWolf said:
Why isn't the fuel tax sufficient enough to tax us based on the mileage we drive? It just seems repetitive...
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Because of the push for people to buy high MPG cars. The government with pushing Global Warming and Hybrid cars has screwed itself so they need another way to screw us.
 
Badmutha said:
Well Democrats already tried taxing exhalation.........so your probably right.....
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It was a good strategy. Democrats never inhale. Didn't you learn anything from Clinton.
 
The CBO is just a customer service for the Congress, it'll do a study about anything you ask it to do. If you were a Congressman or staffer you could tell them to do a study about the possible revenue gain from taxing sprinkles on ice cream cones for little girls and they'd do it, they aren't partisan at all.
 
ptif219 said:
So now the government thinks it has the right to know how much I drive. Putting this kind of technology in my vehicle is an invasion of privacy and another example of big brother is watching you. Another move closer to a police state

CBO: Taxing mileage a 'practical option' for revenue enhancement - The Hill's Floor Action

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) this week released a report that said taxing people based on how many miles they drive is a possible option for raising new revenues and that these taxes could be used to offset the costs of highway maintenance at a time when federal funds are short.

The report discussed the proposal in great detail, including the development of technology that would allow total vehicle miles traveled (VMT) to be tracked, reported and taxed, as well as the pros and cons of mandating the installation of this technology in all vehicles.

"In the past, the efficiency costs of implementing a system of VMT charges — particularly the costs of users' time for slowing and queuing at tollbooths — would clearly have outweighed the potential benefits from more efficient use of highway capacity," CBO wrote. "Now, electronic metering and billing are making per-mile charges a practical option."
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:2brickwal :crazy3: Meters on toilets to count flushes is next.
 
SheWolf said:
Why isn't the fuel tax sufficient enough to tax us based on the mileage we drive? It just seems repetitive...
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Well driving for a living I am very familiar with fuel tax, the answer to your question is that most states now put the fuel tax into a general fund and spend it where it isn't suppose to be spent. So X amount of dollars being collected in fuel tax will go to let say building a park 150 miles away in a nice urban or suburban neighborhood, or perhaps putting in a tennis court or pool etc. OH it can go just about anywhere except the Highways and Byways.
 
If we are going to start pretending the CBO is the same thing as the Democratic party please let me know so I can cite it as hypocrisy whenever you want to use their numbers in the future.
 
Wiseone said:
If we are going to start pretending the CBO is the same thing as the Democratic party please let me know so I can cite it as hypocrisy whenever you want to use their numbers in the future.
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The question is who gives the CBO their numbers.
 
ptif219 said:
The question is who gives the CBO their numbers.
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They produce them themselves through research, how is that even a question? Its something very easily researched and answered by say google or the CBO website. But it does bring up another question, why are you so certain about the motivations of an organization which you don't even know the simpliest and most basic thing about?

Congressional Budget Office - Home Page

Do some research
 
Wiseone said:
They produce them themselves through research, how is that even a question? Its something very easily researched and answered by say google or the CBO website. But it does bring up another question, why are you so certain about the motivations of an organization which you don't even know the simpliest and most basic thing about?

Congressional Budget Office - Home Page

Do some research
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In that case I wish they would have been asked to research HC, Instead of being forced to use the numbers they were given.
 
SheWolf said:
Why isn't the fuel tax sufficient enough to tax us based on the mileage we drive? It just seems repetitive...
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Yep - this - and this also gets me when I mow my lawn, too - and trim the hedges.

On top of that - they already log my mileage - everytime I renew I have to report it. . . I thought they already taxed me on it, really.
 
A gas tax would be far simpler, more practical, more fair, and less invasive than a mileage tax.
 
Kandahar said:
A gas tax would be far simpler, more practical, more fair, and less invasive than a mileage tax.
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And already in place - so tada!

No effort - we're so smart here at DP :D
 
Wiseone said:
They produce them themselves through research, how is that even a question? Its something very easily researched and answered by say google or the CBO website. But it does bring up another question, why are you so certain about the motivations of an organization which you don't even know the simpliest and most basic thing about?

Congressional Budget Office - Home Page

Do some research
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I disagree. Numbers are presentined by the party asking for the CBO view. Example CBO came up with things on Obamacare by numbers presented by the democrats and the President.

Your link did not show where the CBO got those numbers
 
Aunt Spiker said:
And already in place - so tada!
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Ya. The current gas tax isn't really sufficient to pay for all the externalities associated with driving though, but it would be far easier to simply raise it than to create an entirely new type of tax. Especially one as cumbersome and impractical as a mileage tax.
 
Kandahar said:
A gas tax would be far simpler, more practical, more fair, and less invasive than a mileage tax.
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The problem is Obama is pushing more fuel efficient cars which means less gas used.
 
ptif219 said:
The problem is Obama is pushing more fuel efficient cars which means less gas used.
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Well, less gas used is part of the idea. The main purposes of a gas tax are to discourage gas consumption, and to generate enough revenue to cover the cost of the externalities associated with gas use. It's never going to be more than a small source of revenue for the government.
 
This seems pretty absurd.

Toll Roads would be much more reasonable.
 
TheBook said:
This seems pretty absurd.

Toll Roads would be much more reasonable.
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Problem with toll roads it creates traffic, pollution and cost the toll payers money for lost time both in business and personal.
 
Kandahar said:
Well, less gas used is part of the idea. The main purposes of a gas tax are to discourage gas consumption, and to generate enough revenue to cover the cost of the externalities associated with gas use. It's never going to be more than a small source of revenue for the government.
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The main purpose of a gas tax is to discourage consumption? You do realize you are incorrect with that statement. The main purpose of a gas tax is to raise revenue.
 
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