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    Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    It would appear on its face to be an impeachable offense. Now, it doesn't necessarily follow that simply because a president has committed an impeachable offense, that the process should start to impeach and remove him. That's a whole separate question. But we have to clearly understand what this Constitution is about.” — Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)

    The usual suspects, ultra liberals and card-carrying libertarians are standing up and decrying the President's order for our military to participate in the U.N. authorized intervention in Libya, putting to the lie that liberals only oppose Republican presidents' wars and that all conservatives move in lockstep to war.

    Excerpted from “Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"; Both say President Obama overstepped his constitutional authority by giving green light to intervention in Libya” BY PETER FINOCCHIARO, “The War Room” (blog), Salon, MONDAY, MAR 21, 2011 17:37 ET
    Outspoken critics on the left are raising hell over the Obama administration's authorization of military force in Libya, calling it "unconstitutional." …
    Excerpted from “Strikes In Libya Divides GOP, Puts Boehner In A Bind” By Susan Crabtree, TPMDC March 21, 2011, 10:34AM
    Freshmen House Republicans are already putting House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) in a bind over the budget, with a contingent of Tea Party-backed fiscal conservatives refusing to vote for any more continuing resolutions. Now a group of libertarian-leaning Republicans are balking at President Obama's missile strikes in Libya.

    Republican Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), Ron Paul (R-TX) and Justin Amash (R-MI) over the weekend objected to the President's decision to use military force to contain Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, with some questioning the constitutionality of the operation and others opposing U.S military intervention in another Arab country because they aren't convinced that the U.S. has a clear national interest in the action. …
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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Excerpted from “Did Obama lose Congress on Libya?” By JONATHAN ALLEN & MARIN COGAN, Politico, 3/21/11 5:20 PM EDT
    President Barack Obama is facing growing anger from lawmakers who believe he overstepped his authority by launching missile strikes into Libya without first seeking the consent of Congress.

    The criticism is from all directions: from moderates, like Sens. Jim Webb (D-Va.) and Dick Lugar (R-Ind.); from those on the far left and right, like Reps. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) and Ron Paul (R-Texas), who believe the president acted outside the Constitution; and from the establishment on both sides, including House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson of Connecticut and Republican Rep. Candice Miller of Michigan, a self-described “hawk.”

    What it adds up to is this: The president, already taking heat for a perceived lack of engagement on pressing domestic matters, will arrive home from South America needing to justify to Congress and the public his decision to use force in Libya without seeking approval. …
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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Finally - Kucinich and Glenn Beck agree.

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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    It would appear on its face to be an impeachable offense. Now, it doesn't necessarily follow that simply because a president has committed an impeachable offense, that the process should start to impeach and remove him. That's a whole separate question. But we have to clearly understand what this Constitution is about.” — Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)

    The usual suspects, ultra liberals and card-carrying libertarians are standing up and decrying the President's order for our military to participate in the U.N. authorized intervention in Libya, putting to the lie that liberals only oppose Republican presidents' wars and that all conservatives move in lockstep to war.
    Best part of the post?? Freshmen are makin' noise. Love it.
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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    If all the nitwits in Congress oppose it, it must be good.

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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Quote Originally Posted by Animus View Post
    If all the nitwits in Congress oppose it, it must be good.
    Are the GOP opposed to establishing a no fly zone? I have not heard of their official position. Anyone know what it is?
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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Col Muammar Gaddafi - complete uncensored interview [eng subs]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-LGr...eature=related

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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are the GOP opposed to establishing a no fly zone? I have not heard of their official position. Anyone know what it is?
    I think the GOP is for it, No fly zones what a assinine idea, that idea got us into Gulf war 2 and I really hate to say but I have to give credit to Hilliary Clinton for that statement. Now for my meds....

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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Nader and Dennis are just jealous they didn't get the job, lol.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Nader, Kucinich call Libya action "impeachable"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are the GOP opposed to establishing a no fly zone? I have not heard of their official position. Anyone know what it is?
    They are as divided as the Democrats. “Republican Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), Ron Paul (R-TX) and Justin Amash (R-MI)” are opposed to foreign intervention; see the OP, third link.
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