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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Please note the editor's correction to your post... bolded.

    All were ahead of The Curve... were leading... and where was Obama?
    You've turned into a real ass lately zimmer, the post before this one was unnecessarily insulting. I remember you once told me you were an "idiot lib" once, and that you believed everything you were told and how you thought you knew better than everyone else despite you not knowing anything then. Basically you were talking about arrogance. Can you step back for a second and see that the only thing which has changed is the political viewpoint you believe in now? The same arrogance is still there.

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    ROTFLOL... welcome to the show rookie...

    1. That's been done before.
    2. There is historical precedent for using it.
    3. There is a specific reason for using it.

    The mods must be getting tired of rookies doing this.

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    PS. I'm a conservative but one of my favorite cartoonists is Steve Bell... a hard core leftist and Bush 43 hater. This is one of his cartoons... one of my all-time favorites... just changed the head of The Commander in Chief, altered the toilet paper roll and that's it. It's immensely recyclable... like no other toon.

    The original can be seen here:

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    You're proud of that? Do you really think politics or anything should be debated that way? That two sides should make imaging like that, use that kind of language? People should be more mature than that, much much more mature, that is not what the word "debate" means. Im assuming you would agree that anyone has the right to do it without blame or criticism too? I mean if you can use an image of Obama, or any of the other stuff on that link, like that surely I or anyone else could use the same kind against Bush or Palin or any future or past Republican figure? Is that really what you want politics to be? How is that productive at all? How does that kind of stuff contribute to anything other than someone's ego?

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    My brains only at half power, but I fixed it.
    That's still three times as much brain power as Palin uses.

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You've turned into a real ass lately zimmer, the post before this one was unnecessarily insulting. I remember you once told me you were an "idiot lib" once... Basically you were talking about arrogance. Can you step back for a second and see that the only thing which has changed is the political viewpoint you believe in now? The same arrogance is still there.
    If that's your opinion... OK. Me and Obama... according to you we have one thing in common... arrogance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You're proud of that?
    ROTFLOL... you sound like a school teacher. Are you one?


    Do you really think politics or anything should be debated that way?
    Sometimes yes.

    That two sides should make imaging like that, use that kind of language?
    I found that cartoon absolutely hilarious when Bell produced it, and he was skewering a guy who's foreign policy I believed was on the money. I think the cartoon is still hilarious, and is a great vehicle to poke the same kind of crap back at the other side. I would have used it regardless of which Dem was elected... I was expecting to have Hillary's head on there. Might have changed the suit to a pantsuit with a flap in the back.

    People should be more mature than that, much much more mature, that is not what the word "debate" means.
    Steve Bell has made a fine living from being immature I guess. The Guardian must be an immature lot too. Perhaps they are. I don't think Bell is; the remainder I can't speak for as I don't know them.

    If you believe Libs here engage in honest debate... think again. It's another reason I left the left. I learned it was one lie stacked upon another. I have little tolerance for liars, and skewering them and their idiotic leadership is part of debate and debating. Not that Obama would ever sink to the level of demeaning his opposition. No... he would never do that.

    Im assuming you would agree that anyone has the right to do it without blame or criticism too? I mean if you can use an image of Obama, or any of the other stuff on that link, like that surely I or anyone else could use the same kind against Bush or Palin or any future or past Republican figure?
    SURE and ABSOLUTELY!!! Though nothing comes without blame or criticism... that's life! And check out Bell's toons. He made a fine living skewering Bush43. His Bush era stuff is priceless... and Ramirez is another master of his craft.

    Is that really what you want politics to be?
    You have got to be joking. We have a President that bribed to pass ObamaKare, called a Cop a racist, hires tax cheats, refers to its citizens as "bitter clingers" and "tea baggers"... and you think this is the lower reaches of political discourse? Puh-lease. Interesting you hold a poster on DP to far higher standards than POTUS.


    How is that productive at all?
    It's funny... it was funny when Bell skewered Bush, and it's funny and more fitting because Obama is literally up to his neck in it. Not everyone will laugh, and some might even be offended. C'est la vie.

    Here is productive debate... just in the nick of time a Lib comes through with deep insight that is both hilarious and original to boot!
    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    That's still three times as much brain power as Palin uses.
    Phew... now that is hard stuff to debate, to top, and really gets to the heart of the matter, but I'm sure the Libs are doing their collective head-bob and having a few guffaws at the penetrating humor just delivered.

    How does that kind of stuff contribute to anything other than someone's ego?
    It skewers The One, it juxtaposes Mr. Brilliant with the Crap-o-matic governance he's blessed us with. That's the contribution. I understand Libs won't like it, and that's part of the fun too. You see, I enjoy having fun... another reason for leaving the brain dead, uptight, overwrought Left.

    I was going to post this one first, but wasn't sure it hit on all the cylinders of this thread; the other had done precisely that, much to your dismay I have come to understand.



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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    The mods can deal with it as they see fit. I did my part.
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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    She's ahead of the curve again, and people have the gall to claim she's stupid. If that's the case, what is Obama? Is he really, really stupid, or does he simply lack a pair of testicles. In the words of The Rag'in Cajun... perhaps Hillary can loan Obama one of hers.

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    Can something Bill Kristol told her to say really be called a 'doctrine'??

    She still can't find Libya on a map.

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Can something Bill Kristol told her to say really be called a 'doctrine'??

    She still can't find Libya on a map.
    LOL... I see you are a subscriber to the AOL/Huffington Post and have taken time from your busy schedule to unsheath your mighty wit. I am sure you have proof for both claims?

    Wiseone: See what I mean?

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Comparing the dates from the article linked in the OP and this article from Newsvine dated March 2, 2011, it would appear Palin's mention of a no-fly zone was made (domestically atleast) approximately one-week before SoS Clinton or SecDef Gates mentioned it during an interview with British journalist abroad.

    While March 2nd is the earliest evidence I've found suggesting that the Obama Administration had been considering a no-fly zone for some time, admittedly I could find no evidence to suggest it was talked about publically before February 23rd, the date of Sarah Palin's interview with Sean Hannity. However, that doesn't mean that the Obama Administration didn't have this strategy on the table beforehand. It just means they didn't go public about it before Palin did. Nonetheless, since I couldn't find any evidence to suggest the Obama Administration had discussed the matter publically before Palin, I'm willing to concede she discussed it publically first. Doesn't mean she was smarter than the Joint Chiefs, just means as a civilian she has the liberty of discussing issues of military strategy whereas the President can't go about tipping his hand as she can.

    Moreover, as we now know, a UN resolution for a no-fly zone was passed 10-0 w/5 abstaning, AND among those member nations who voted in favor of same included members of the Arab League. So, even if Sarah Palin had mentioned a no-fly zone first, it would appear that her recommendation was a U.S. led-only no-fly zone which certainly wouldn't have been nearly as effective militarily nor politically as part of our foreign policy agenda as a unilateral coalition of U.N. forces surely will be.
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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Just dies laughing ... he sat next to Laura Bush at a SotU. And yes, after Chalabi's treachery became undeniable, GWB said he "may have met" Chalabi.

    And you point this out for what reason? Gee.... and Obama didn't hear any of the anti American preaching while attending the reverend Whites church for 20 years either.
    I really don't see how you or anyone else can compare then Sen. Obama's 20 yr relationship/church membership w/Rev. Wright to GW Bush paying a man several million dollars for falty intelligence that pulled this country into a false war. Surely, you're not attempting to make such a corrollation.

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    LOL... I see you are a subscriber to the AOL/Huffington Post and have taken time from your busy schedule to unsheath your mighty wit. I am sure you have proof for both claims?

    Wiseone: See what I mean?

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    Ya I do. Except I have the capacity to hold to my own values and not let someone else's actions govern them. If I believe that maturity is an important part of any productive political process, or if I believe I want to beat my opponents through the use of undeniable facts or reasonable arguments which both explain my position and specifically what I have wrong with my opponent's position, and I may even suggest a compromise, if I believe that I have the guts and ability to stick to it even if my opponent wants to use a poop joke. I won't use my opponent's actions as justification for anything and will never use the excuse that "if they aren't going to be mature, then I don't have to." Bull****, there's nothing stopping you from being mature regardless of what the other guy is doing other than you're own fortitude and ability to take a little crap and bad wit without it bruising your ego.

    Also I wasn't comparing you to Obama, I was comparing you to yourself, I'd bet my bottom dollar that liberal zimmer was just as much of an arrogant egotistical ass as conservative one is.

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