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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Zimmer - you keep avoiding the major question here: how does one position of Palin mean anything special or important?

    Why is this such a big thing to you?

    Palin has taken many many positions on many many issues both large and small, both important and insignificant over the last few years and people make up their mind about her based on all that they see. Why do you think this one single position is so darn important?
    You ask why this issue is so important to Zimmer...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Too bad you folks didn't take this precise advice before going gaga over an inexperienced in life, commerce, and executive skills but fine telepromteur reading Marxist Community Agitator.

    Difference is she was ahead of the curve... and are you implying Obama is a pure political animal that looks at his own skin first before doing what is right for the nation? It sounds like it, and he behaves like it too. Thanks for revealing the truth about your agitator.
    If I were to venture a guess, I'd say he just gave everyone a clue. Clearly, his political views aren't the only aspects that formulate the basis of his anti-Obama resentment.

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You ask why this issue is so important to Zimmer...



    If I were to venture a guess, I'd say he just gave everyone a clue. Clearly, his political views aren't the only aspects that formulate the basis of his anti-Obama resentment.
    Yup. Its fairly obvious that this thread has not a damn thing to do with Sarah Palin or something she said weeks ago. Its more of the same old right wing obsession that has eaten away at their brain cells boring tiny tunnels into the grey matter much the way a rat eats through a fifty pound cheese block.
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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    She's ahead of the curve again, and people have the gall to claim she's stupid. If that's the case, what is Obama? Is he really, really stupid, or does he simply lack a pair of testicles. In the words of The Rag'in Cajun... perhaps Hillary can loan Obama one of hers.

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    She isn't stupid, she is ignorant. The Palin Doctrine? Please! The women hasn't had an original idea except maybe quitting her term halfway through because she thought she was needed in the Lower 48,

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Funny, the ancient Empire of Rome had more freedoms than we did at this point in time and they were in fact a Democracy please go learn something about history.
    i think you are confusing the Republic with the Empire; which did not have more freedoms than we do today.

    As a matter of fact in my own opinion we have lost a lot of our freedoms thanks to the Patriot Act.
    name three.

    Also the fact that Bush Jr. had so much detain for our constitution that he investigated people that were against him Ala the Quakers and other groups that were against war
    evidence that Bush was investigating the quakers due to their anti-war stance?

    i think you are thinking of Johnson, who broke the law and decency in ways that make Nixon look comparatively pure as the driven snow.

    Funny, and NO I will not forgive the Republican party for people that were down right stomping on the constitution and my rights to freedom of expression, and the freedoms we all hold dear.
    fascinating. given the huge expansion in the "BU$HITLER=AMERIKKKA=ZIONIST CONTROL OF THE WORLD!!!" sign industry in the past few years, and the huge success of movies depicting his assassination and accusing him of murdering thousands of Americans; I would love to see where freedom of expression was stomped on.
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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Duration is no indicator of success
    ....being reelected is no indicator that the majority of voters want you in charge of the nation?

    Do a survey and you'll find that the peacetime government most Brits deem to have been most successful was that of Clement Atlee that lasted just 5 years but which introduced the NHS, welfare state, comprehensive education to 16, dismantled the empire and reconstructed the nation after the war
    yes, and generally speaking all of that was bad. which is perhaps why he only lasted 5 years (well, that and the fact that he tried to continue rationing)

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ....being reelected is no indicator that the majority of voters want you in charge of the nation?
    Well, that's a part of the problem. Political success is judged solely on the ability to win elections, not on the success the politician is able to have in governing well, improving conditions for the citizenry, or making the world a safer and more prosperous place. If you can get reelected, by hook or by crook, that's all that matters. With those attitudes predominant in this era, it's not surprising we get the dross that we do.

    yes, and generally speaking all of that was bad. which is perhaps why he only lasted 5 years (well, that and the fact that he tried to continue rationing)
    Well many on the far right have maintained that the NHS, welfare state and comprehensive education are bad, but funnily enough, no Conservative government has ever abolished them, not even the sainted Margaret.
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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ....being reelected is no indicator that the majority of voters want you in charge of the nation?
    Huh?

    Well, 2000... yeah, neither does being elected in the first place.

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    She's ahead of the curve again, and people have the gall to claim she's stupid. If that's the case, what is Obama? Is he really, really stupid, or does he simply lack a pair of testicles. In the words of The Rag'in Cajun... perhaps Hillary can loan Obama one of hers.

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    What is she proposing?

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Oh my god. Are you that out of touch!?! You live under a rock? I cant believe that anyone is that far out. Man, if you think Palin was some how the first person to think of this or even one of the first people to think of this, I have no respect for you anymore. That is one of the dumbest things Ive read in a while. And to call it the "palin Doctrine" is just soooooooo ignorant and stupid...... Im just without words at how utterly stupid this is.
    Never mind my other post... I understand my confusion now... She advocated a no fly zone, but it's debatable if she originated the idea.

    I have been working so much, I don't have time to follow this stuff... but I'd say her advisors gave her the talking points, and Obama was probably discussing this with his team back then too.

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    Re: Palin Doctrine Emerges as Arab League Echoes Her Demarche on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Are you talking about the proposal for a No-fly zone that President Sarkozy had discussed with the media on February 22nd? Or the one proposed by the Libyan Deputy Ambassador to the UN, at the UN on February 21st? You mean the one that Sarah Palin would have read about in the papers on the morning you reckon she 'invented' the idea, February 23rd? Is that what you're referring to as The Palin Doctrine? The policy position she borrowed from France?

    Libya no-fly zone call by France fails to get David Cameron's backing | World news | The Guardian

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    //www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/23/libya-iraq-2003-invasion-gaddafi?INTCMP=SRCH
    Well, she talks on the phone with Sarkozy so she probably advised him on the no fly zone..


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