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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    All that does is make more poor people. Good plan. So why do you hate the poor again?
    socialists use the poor as pawns to gain wealth that they cannot earn in the private sector



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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialists use the poor as pawns to gain wealth that they cannot earn in the private sector
    Partially, partially it's purely for power.

    I was working for a black preacher man in 2008. He asked me why I was voting Republican. I gave him my reasons and he basically called me a fool. Why?

    "You ain't rich, voting against Obama is shooting yourself in the foot, the Democrats want to help you" was the mentality.

    (this coming from a man in a comfy $90k a year well benefited job PLUS his Church stuff... you should have seen his car)

    When I responded "I want to make my own wealth not have hand outs" he laughed at me, saying and I paraphrase "You can't get rich in their world if you weren't born rich"

    Sad, really.
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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Partially, partially it's purely for power.

    I was working for a black preacher man in 2008. He asked me why I was voting Republican. I gave him my reasons and he basically called me a fool. Why?

    "You ain't rich, voting against Obama is shooting yourself in the foot, the Democrats want to help you" was the mentality.

    (this coming from a man in a comfy $90k a year well benefited job PLUS his Church stuff... you should have seen his car)

    When I responded "I want to make my own wealth not have hand outs" he laughed at me, saying and I paraphrase "You can't get rich in their world if you weren't born rich"

    Sad, really.
    he was right. only you could not comprehend it
    you vote them in to take money out of your pockets to place it in theirs
    look at the trillion dollar tax break for the rich as a current example

    and he was right in another way. you aren't rich
    and chances are you will never be

    so, the preacher was right. you - and those like you - foolishly vote against your own interests
    Sad, really.
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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    he was right. only you could not comprehend it
    you vote them in to take money out of your pockets to place it in theirs
    look at the trillion dollar tax break for the rich as a current example

    and he was right in another way. you aren't rich
    and chances are you will never be

    so, the preacher was right. you - and those like you - foolishly vote against your own interests
    It's in my interest to live as a dredge to the Gov't?

    No thanks.
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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialists use the poor as pawns to gain wealth that they cannot earn in the private sector
    'Socialists' when referring to U.S. politics, is a far-right talking point popular with fans of Hannity and Limbaugh.

    It is a complete misuse of the term.

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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    'Socialists' when referring to U.S. politics, is a far-right talking point popular with fans of Hannity and Limbaugh.

    It is a complete misuse of the term.
    you seem to spend far more time listening to them than I do.

    and yes socialism is an accurate description of what many lefties crave



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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    he was right. only you could not comprehend it
    you vote them in to take money out of your pockets to place it in theirs
    look at the trillion dollar tax break for the rich as a current example

    and he was right in another way. you aren't rich
    and chances are you will never be

    so, the preacher was right. you - and those like you - foolishly vote against your own interests
    That's completely untrue. It's perfectly possible to become wealthy even on a middle class salary, if you save and invest.

    I grew up in a pretty poor family. I could never have afforded columbia if they hadn't been so generous with financial aid. However, due to my own efforts and the great education I got there, I was easily able to become relatively wealthy (salaries increase exponentially here so it only gets better - I'll probably retire within 10 years, though). I've already donated at least 3 times the financial aid I got back to columbia though, for them, I could say I was a good investment.

    also, turtle, adjust your quote on the last page please. You quoted catawba and used my name.
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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post

    and yes socialism is an accurate description of what many lefties crave
    'Socialism' and 'lefties' again words that have very little actual relevance in U.S. politics, except in hyperbolic partisanship.

    If far-right cons will continue to cling to these hollow attacks, then 2012 is not going to the year they hope.

    Those who continue to use these misleading, empty terms either don't know any better or are happy to toss red meat for the party -- e.g. Palin.

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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    'Socialism' and 'lefties' again words that have very little actual relevance in U.S. politics, except in hyperbolic partisanship.

    If far-right cons will continue to cling to these hollow attacks, then 2012 is not going to the year they hope.

    Those who continue to use these misleading, empty terms either don't know any better or are happy to toss red meat for the party -- e.g. Palin.
    Irony alert-far right cons vs socialist dems.



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    Re: When a Million Dollars Just Won't Cut it

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    That's completely untrue. It's perfectly possible to become wealthy even on a middle class salary, if you save and invest.

    I grew up in a pretty poor family. I could never have afforded columbia if they hadn't been so generous with financial aid. However, due to my own efforts and the great education I got there, I was easily able to become relatively wealthy (salaries increase exponentially here so it only gets better - I'll probably retire within 10 years, though). I've already donated at least 3 times the financial aid I got back to columbia though, for them, I could say I was a good investment.

    also, turtle, adjust your quote on the last page please. You quoted catawba and used my name.
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