• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems say

danarhea

danarhea

Slayer of the DP Newsbot
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 27, 2005
Messages
43,602
Reaction score
26,256
Location
Houston, TX
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
In another sign that the Wisconsin GOP’s quick passage of the bill to roll back bargaining rights is only causing the fight to escalate, Dems have now collected over 45 percent of the signatures necessary to hold recall elections for eight GOP state senators, the Wisconsin Democratic Party tells me.
Click to expand...

In only two weeks, Democrats have collected almost half the petitions they need to recall ALL EIGHT Republican State Senators who are eligible for recall, and the anger of Wisconsinites isn't diminishing. There is no doubt that Governor Walker will also be recalled, as soon as he becomes eligible next January.

There is a moral to this story as well. If you are elected to do a job, do your job instead of waging an ideological war, and employing a slash and burn strategy in the process. Governor Walker is going to learn this lesson the hard way. He political future is toast, as well as Republican hopes of keeping Wisconsin in their column. You can also count on the fact that Democrats are going to make this a major issue in 2012.

But it didn't have to be this way. Walker could have just implemented the cuts, as he promised in his campaign, and all would have been well. Instead, he is going to pay the political price for his political conniving with the Koch Brothers, as a recall even more historic than the one that send California's Governor Davis packing becomes a juggernaut that will not be stopped. Not until the wreckage of Wisconsin's GOP, seen by all, lays bare the lies, hypocrisy, backroom deals, and dirty tricks that led to it's destruction in that state.

Article is here.
 
Last edited:
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

I don't like the fact that he didn't campaign on what he did, and his attitude was, "I was elected, so I WILL DO WHATEVER THE F**k I WANT!"

It's just bad in principle... he didn't even try to hear the people, and I think elected officials should never forget who put them in power. If every clown we elected pulled what Walker did, there would be absolutely no trust between the people and the government and for that I want to see him thrown out. I would also like to see him address his actions to the voters and sell his budget to the people, but I don't see that happening... He is kind avoiding the issue at this point.
 
Last edited:
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

This will be an interesting study in democracy.

The petitioners have to get many more signatures than required since each petition will no doubt be challenged by cross-referencing with voter registrations as well as on other grounds.

Then, if found valid, of course, the person recalled will have to actually be beaten in an election.

It won't be over 'til the fat lady sings, of course. And I won't be believin' any Dem rhetoric in the meantime. Personally, I hope their efforts fail. Every one of them, on both sides of the aisle, looks the fool.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

MaggieD said:
This will be an interesting study in democracy.

The petitioners have to get many more signatures than required since each petition will no doubt be challenged by cross-referencing with voter registrations as well as on other grounds.

Then, if found valid, of course, the person recalled will have to actually be beaten in an election.

It won't be over 'til the fat lady sings, of course. And I won't be believin' any Dem rhetoric in the meantime. Personally, I hope their efforts fail. Every one of them, on both sides of the aisle, looks the fool.
Click to expand...

Eventually, they will have to answer to the voters and 45,000* are already telling them what they think... The sooner, the better.. for the voters anyway. If the voters get what they want, I don't really care.. no matter how painful or embarrassing it is for the political establishment.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

MaggieD said:
This will be an interesting study in democracy.

The petitioners have to get many more signatures than required since each petition will no doubt be challenged by cross-referencing with voter registrations as well as on other grounds.

Then, if found valid, of course, the person recalled will have to actually be beaten in an election.

It won't be over 'til the fat lady sings, of course. And I won't be believin' any Dem rhetoric in the meantime. Personally, I hope their efforts fail. Every one of them, on both sides of the aisle, looks the fool.
Click to expand...

Let the recalls happen, Republicans and Democrats alike. Right now, the odds of 3 Republican Senators losing their jobs is almost a certainty. And let them oust a governor who believes that he is Napoleon. This is true Democracy in action.

The next time someone wants to act like a dictator instead of an elected official, let him think twice. Walker doesn't own Wisconsin. The people do.
 
Last edited:
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

What platform are the challengers going to run on? "Vote us back in, so we can get back to ****ing things up even worse than they already are" ? Promise to raise taxes, so they can pay the overgrown salaries of public employees?

That's what got them voted out.
 
Last edited:
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

danarhea said:
In only two weeks, Democrats have collected almost half the petitions they need to recall ALL EIGHT Republican State Senators who are eligible for recall, and the anger of Wisconsinites isn't diminishing. There is no doubt that Governor Walker will also be recalled, as soon as he becomes eligible next January.

There is a moral to this story as well. If you are elected to do a job, do your job instead of waging an ideological war, and employing a slash and burn strategy in the process. Governor Walker is going to learn this lesson the hard way. He political future is toast, as well as Republican hopes of keeping Wisconsin in their column. You can also count on the fact that Democrats are going to make this a major issue in 2012.

But it didn't have to be this way. Walker could have just implemented the cuts, as he promised in his campaign, and all would have been well. Instead, he is going to pay the political price for his political conniving with the Koch Brothers, as a recall even more historic than the one that send California's Governor Davis packing becomes a juggernaut that will not be stopped. Not until the wreckage of Wisconsin's GOP, seen by all, lays bare the lies, hypocrisy, backroom deals, and dirty tricks that led to it's destruction in that state.

Article is here.
Click to expand...

You phony conservative independent!
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

Redress said:
You phony conservative independent!
Click to expand...

Thanx for getting that out of the way. Now others can relax. LOL.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

danarhea said:
In only two weeks, Democrats have collected almost half the petitions they need to recall ALL EIGHT Republican State Senators who are eligible for recall, and the anger of Wisconsinites isn't diminishing. There is no doubt that Governor Walker will also be recalled, as soon as he becomes eligible next January.

There is a moral to this story as well. If you are elected to do a job, do your job instead of waging an ideological war, and employing a slash and burn strategy in the process. Governor Walker is going to learn this lesson the hard way. He political future is toast, as well as Republican hopes of keeping Wisconsin in their column. You can also count on the fact that Democrats are going to make this a major issue in 2012.

But it didn't have to be this way. Walker could have just implemented the cuts, as he promised in his campaign, and all would have been well. Instead, he is going to pay the political price for his political conniving with the Koch Brothers, as a recall even more historic than the one that send California's Governor Davis packing becomes a juggernaut that will not be stopped. Not until the wreckage of Wisconsin's GOP, seen by all, lays bare the lies, hypocrisy, backroom deals, and dirty tricks that led to it's destruction in that state.

Article is here.
Click to expand...

Damn!!! I am real impressed! This gives me much hope that the middle class is finally standing up to corporate power grabs!
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

danarhea said:
Let the recalls happen, Republicans and Democrats alike. Right now, the odds of 3 Republican Senators losing their jobs is almost a certainty. And let them oust a governor who believes that he is Napoleon. This is true Democracy in action.

The next time someone wants to act like a dictator instead of an elected official, let him think twice. Walker doesn't own Wisconsin. The people do.
Click to expand...

:mrgreen:

6268083.jpg
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

It'll be interesting to see if the courts side with the majority or uphold the law for recalling new governors.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

speaking of recalls

Voters swept Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Alvarez out of office by a stunning margin Tuesday, capping a dramatic collapse for a politician who was given increased authority by voters four years ago to clean up much-maligned county government but was ushered out in the largest recall of a local politician in U.S. history.

The spectacular fall from power comes after two years of missteps, ranging from granting top staffers big pay hikes to construction of a publicly funded stadium for the Florida Marlins to implementation of a property-tax rate increase that outraged an electorate struggling through an ugly recession.

Alvarez tried to fend off ouster by twice filing suit to block a recall vote. After the lawsuits went nowhere, he defended his record in speeches, radio and television appearances and paid advertisements, arguing that he made the tough calls to preserve vital services for residents.

But voters responded by handing the mayor a humiliating defeat: Nearly nine of every 10 voted to remove Alvarez from office.

County Commissioner Natacha Seijas was similarly recalled Tuesday in a resounding defeat. For 18 years she represented a district that includes Miami Lakes and Hialeah and was widely regarded as the most powerful politician on the commission.
Click to expand...

In dramatic revolt, Miami-Dade voters fire Mayor Carlos Alvarez over pay hikes, tax increase - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com

90%!

in miami-dade!

party on, progressives
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

apdst said:
What platform are the challengers going to run on? "Vote us back in, so we can get back to ****ing things up even worse than they already are" ? Promise to raise taxes, so they can pay the overgrown salaries of public employees?

That's what got them voted out.
Click to expand...

I think that's probably true. The television ads that the republicans will put out will obviously paint the opponent as having to raise taxes. The debates should also draw a stark contrast between one side that will have to vote to raise taxes and another side that chose spending cuts to meet the deficit.

Unions will be very organized, though, so who know what the ultimate outcome will be.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

The Prof said:
speaking of recalls



In dramatic revolt, Miami-Dade voters fire Mayor Carlos Alvarez over pay hikes, tax increase - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com

90%!

in miami-dade!

party on, progressives
Click to expand...

Hey cool. Now people can bring up Gray Davis recall, the Nixon impeachment, the Clinton impeachment, and, hey...... How about the Andrew Johnson impeachment?

I have a better idea. How about starting your own thread with that post, instead of trolling this one? Thanx in advance. BTW, I do agree with you on what you posted.
 
Last edited:
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

apdst said:
What platform are the challengers going to run on? "Vote us back in, so we can get back to ****ing things up even worse than they already are" ? Promise to raise taxes, so they can pay the overgrown salaries of public employees?

That's what got them voted out.
Click to expand...

They'll probably run on the platform, "Vote us back in, we'll tell you what we're gonna do up front and not hide it before we get elected."

They'll probably also run on the platform, "Vote us back in, don't you remember that 8 years of Republicans caused this mess. It's not going to take us just 2 years to undo their incompetence."
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

Moderator's Warning:
This is a *BN* thread about the Wisconsin recall, not about recalls in general. Keep it on topic
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

So how does this recall thing work anyways? I get that they have to gather signatures from people that are registered voters...but does it have to be from people that voted for the senators? Or just anyone that voted period?
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

I'm laughing at this notion that all of Wisconsin is up in arms over what Walker and the Republicans have done.

A high percentage of that state has never been more proud of a Wisconsin governor.

Unions are by and large incredibly corrupt, and their very existence is hanging in the balance in Wisconsin. I expect them to leave no bullets in the chamber. Losing this will substantially weaken them across the country.

And these polls are flat bogus. You can't just poll in inner city Madison and get a real picture.

Walker is a true hero in because he has the balls to act on what much of the country has been begging for. It will serve him well; his political career is just beginning.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

theplaydrive said:
They'll probably run on the platform, "Vote us back in, we'll tell you what we're gonna do up front and not hide it before we get elected."

They'll probably also run on the platform, "Vote us back in, don't you remember that 8 years of Republicans caused this mess. It's not going to take us just 2 years to undo their incompetence."
Click to expand...

Democrats were in charge the past eight years in Wisconsin. Governor Walker is trying to fix it.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

Erod said:
I'm laughing at this notion that all of Wisconsin is up in arms over what Walker and the Republicans have done.

A high percentage of that state has never been more proud of a Wisconsin governor.

Unions are by and large incredibly corrupt, and their very existence is hanging in the balance in Wisconsin. I expect them to leave no bullets in the chamber. Losing this will substantially weaken them across the country.

And these polls are flat bogus. You can't just poll in inner city Madison and get a real picture.

Walker is a true hero in because he has the balls to act on what much of the country has been begging for. It will serve him well; his political career is just beginning.
Click to expand...

um, no. inner city madison? you don't know much about WI, do you?
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

Erod said:
Democrats were in charge the past eight years in Wisconsin. Governor Walker is trying to fix it.
Click to expand...

I meant the entire economy which affected the individual economy every state.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

ksu_aviator said:
The sword cuts both ways:

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Recall_of_Wisconsin_State_Senators_(2011)

New Political Fight in Wisconsin: Dueling Recall Drives - Yahoo! News

And it appears the democrats aren't playing fair:

Group claims union protesters destroyed Holperin recall petitions | Wausau Daily Herald | wausaudailyherald.com
Click to expand...

First link brought me to a blank wiki page that says "There is currently no text in this page.".

Second link was facebook...ewww.

Third link...wouldn't doubt if it was true. Not saying it is...just wouldn't doubt it.
 
Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

Erod said:
I'm laughing at this notion that all of Wisconsin is up in arms over what Walker and the Republicans have done.

A high percentage of that state has never been more proud of a Wisconsin governor.

Unions are by and large incredibly corrupt, and their very existence is hanging in the balance in Wisconsin. I expect them to leave no bullets in the chamber. Losing this will substantially weaken them across the country.

And these polls are flat bogus. You can't just poll in inner city Madison and get a real picture.

Walker is a true hero in because he has the balls to act on what much of the country has been begging for. It will serve him well; his political career is just beginning.
Click to expand...
whatever you are smoking, pass that stuff around!!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom