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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize how radical you sound?
    Not near as radical as a cold-blooded governor who uses his power to make up his own rules, completely ignoring fair play, established procedures, and long standing quorum rules.

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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Not near as radical as a cold-blooded governor who uses his power to make up his own rules, completely ignoring fair play, established procedures, and long standing quorum rules.

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    Not only do you sound radical but you also sound very misinformed. What power did the governor use to make up his own rules? It was a bill that the Democrats ran out on. Elections have consequences, isn't that what you said when Obama was elected and implemented his far left agenda?

    think it is radical to indoctrinate kids like the union thugs are doing in Wisconsin? Think it is radical to run out on your obligations like the 14 Dems did? Think it is radical to expect union employees to pay for their healthcare and retirement like the rest of the country? Think it is radical for unions to get taxpayer funding? Before using big words like radical suggest you learn what that word means and apply it equally to leftwing policies.

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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Sorry about the first link, let's try this: http://www.ballotpedia.org/wiki/inde...Senators_(2011)

    The second link is not facebook...it just has a link to post to Facebook if you wish.
    Thanks. Interesting on the second link though...when I clicked it before no article came up but the comments section did. :P
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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    This is probably why bold measures in this country usually fail.

    Not knowing Wisconsin politics, I beg an honest question, however. Did Walker campaign on this issue or similar?
    If people researched at all, they would have had a pretty good idea about how he planned to govern.

    The Untold Story of Scott Walker's Longstanding History with Labor.


    In 2002, Milwaukee County elected Scott Walker, the first ever Republican County Executive.

    As Executive, Walker’s skirmishes with unions began shortly after he promised he would balance county budgets without raising property taxes. Without counting on these revenue-raising mechanisms, Walker had to lean on the county workforce for program cuts.

    In 2003, Detractors accused Walker of ginning up a false fiscal crisis in order to justify slashing budget items. Drumming up false budgetary crises became a perennial charge against Walker, so he didn’t waste opportunities to remind them that unfunded pension liabilities threatened the solvency of their county government.
    In 2006, the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) – Walker’s nemesis in all budgetary matters - criticized Walker for what they called a “Sky is Falling Tour.” A few months later (ironically), the Greater Milwaukee Committee – a private sector civic organization – released a damaging report recommending a state takeover of Milwaukee County's finances due to their daunting health care and pension costs.
    In late 2006, Walker made headlines when he decided to veto the entire counter-budget proposed by the Milwaukee County Board. Walker vetoed it because the County Board had restored 125 jobs that his budget had planned to cut. A verbal battle ensued starting with Walker blaming the County Board for caving in to union pressure. The County Board explained they partially restored those jobs to entice unions to come to the negotiating table. That didn’t work. Rich Abelson, President of AFSCME’s Council 48, was so angered that he promised to start recall campaigns on every County Supervisor that failed to fully fund those positions. Abelson said, “We know who they are, and we won’t forget.”
    In 2009, Walker’s battle with Milwaukee’s biggest union resulted in successfully privatizing the County Courthouse’s housekeeping. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel characterized his victory as “half a loaf” since the County Board thwarted Walker’s attempt to privatize the County Courthouse security as well. A few months later, Walker stunned the Board by invoking emergency budget powers in order to privatize those security jobs anyway. His authority was later challenged by AFSCME and reversed by arbitrator Amedeo Greco, who ordered Milwaukee County to rehire the guards they had fired with months of back pay.

    At no point during Walker’s eight year tenure did AFSCME recognize the financial impact the pension scandal had upon Milwaukee County. In short, Milwaukee County’s Pension Board - without so much as a cost study on pension benefits - passed ultra-lucrative pension buy-backs to hundreds of employees. Almost in a day, Milwaukee County government found herself mired in a $60 million hole without a viable exit strategy.
    Instead of acknowledging the county’s fiscal woes, AFSCME fought Walker every step of the way. Walker took his story to the public explaining that 48% of the county budget was spent on wages and benefits. He also explained that more concessions were necessary to narrow their $10 million budget gap. Ultimately, AFSCME refused to make any concessions prompting Walker to order 22 furlough days for nearly 1,500 county employees. In a rare display of solidarity, the County Board put their firm support behind Walker’s decision in the hope it would prod the county’s largest union to be reasonable. That never happened.
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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If people researched at all, they would have had a pretty good idea about how he planned to govern.

    The Untold Story of Scott Walker's Longstanding History with Labor.


    In 2002, Milwaukee County elected Scott Walker, the first ever Republican County Executive.
    With the untold story?????


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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    With the untold story?????
    sure... stick to your normal process of whining about the name of a link instead of actually reading it or doing your own research (MMA is NOT research).

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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If people researched at all, they would have had a pretty good idea about how he planned to govern.
    Double Thanks, Barb. Great information. I hope Walker is successful in giving Wisconsinites a true understanding of this issue.
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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Not near as radical as a cold-blooded governor who uses his power to make up his own rules, completely ignoring fair play, established procedures, and long standing quorum rules.

    ricksfolly
    that the weasly-ass Democrats ran away and hid from, instead of staying and doing their ****ing jobs.

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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    If they do manage a recall and have reelections, and if the debate is as mindless and meaningless as the numerous threads on this topic on this website, it wont matter, because either way it turns out the people of Wisconsin are ****ed.

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    Re: Nearly half of sigs collected for recall of Wisconsin GOP state senators, Dems sa

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    As a dictator the Governor can do anything he wants, even throw out the recall votes, so in the end, the only way to stop him, and the other would be dictators, is with US troops.

    ricksfolly
    Annnnnd, that would be illegal. That would be awesome if Obama sent Federal troops in to relieve Scott. So awesome that words cannot describe it.

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