EarlzP
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OK, here are a couple of observations:
1) Privatization is always sold as a clean deal by its proponents. It never ends up as such, however. Those private industries that run utilities, for instance, have no trouble seeking public funds when they have mismanaged things and suffered a loss...or even when they just happen to feel like they can succeed at doing so. They usually do get the funds they seek thanks to corrupt local politicians (the same ones who promoted the privatization in the first place). It's very strange to me that the anti-big-government wing in this country fails to recognize the almost seamless integration of business and government. It's rather as if someone were to announce themselves as anti-communist, but pro-marxist. If one is truly against big government, one must also be against big business, since the de facto authors of policy and law in this nation are big businesses.
2) It is very clear to anyone not in the grip of an ideology that Walker's program is not motivated by the pressures he claims.
3) All of this said, liberals are just as much to blame as conservatives for getting us into the fix in which we, the people of the U.S., find ourselves. And neither conservative nor liberal solutions as currently proposed are going to make any positive difference. Though I disagree with his opinion in general, I believe TurtleDude made a valid point earlier in this thread about the overall character of Americans these days, and more people on the left ought to start listening when those on the right start talking about personal responsibility. Similarly, those on the right ought to start listening to the leftist critiques of their (i.e. the right's) economic solutions.
I had to go back and look to see what turtledove had said/wrote and to my utter amazement I agree with you, he did make some valid points
I know why
1) globalization makes American "middle class jobs" too expensive to compete
Your absolutley right, what is your solution to create employment opportunities for the middle class?
2) education--those who don't have it cannot compete with those who have it
Your absolutley right so what do you suggest for those who either can not afford it or do not have the capacity to work at tech type jobs, and how do we stop them from being shipped overseas?
3) lots of americans engage in life choices that prevent them from getting the necessary education
Your absolutely right and some are born into lives that are not condusive to getting the education needed to compete, what is your solution?
4) the breeding rates of those unable to compete tend to be much higher than those who do
I don't care much for your choice of words "breeding rates" we are talking about human beings not animals, I agree that to many are being brought into this world in life style environments that will make being competitive more then difficult. Hope is important, nothing beats opportunity as a motivator, so how do we extend hope and opportunity to those unfortunate enough to born into what appears a jopeless situation ?
5) we have made losing too comfortable in the United States and the darwinian forces that motivated many to compete have been decreased.
I agree 100% now how do we address it? How do we get those who are in the repetitious cycle of federal assistance out of that cycle
6) the democratic party needs lots of people in the underclass to both justify their income redistribution programs (that tend to enrich dem politicians) and to supply them votes. the dems have had control of congress for most of the 50 years following the New Deal and thus cemented into our society the programs that create and maintain this underclass
I think both parties spend to much time pointing fingers and assigning blame and not nearly enough time looking for solutions, we need rocket science to luanch rockets we don't need rocket science to identify problems and come up with working solutions. So we have a CHOICE we can continue down the road we are on throwing sticks stones and words at each other or we can sit down and work out solutions for the problems that face us as a nation, WE is the key word here United is how we maintain our strength as a nation, We are DIVIDED and can not survive in this state