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    Re: Top Treasury Official: Government Shut-Down May Be Unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, well that SOUNDS good, but any time you include defense in that mix it will end up being the only thing cut. And that's, no doubt, the whole intent for some libs. Now some will say that I don't think defense can be cut; well yes and no. It all depends on what parts you cut. The most likely area to be cut will be R&D. Well we tried that during Clinton, it left us with obsolete equipment where the public later accused the govt of not providing enough armor for our troops. Well you can't advance the state of the art without sufficenct funding. So the result was we provide armor that was too freaking heavy for both vehicles and personnel.

    So the bottomline is that the cuts would likely occur in areas you don't want them to, but on the surface the politicians can say they made cuts.
    How often have medicare, social security, and defense all been on the table for cuts, and what result did we end up with?

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    Re: Top Treasury Official: Government Shut-Down May Be Unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Damn straight, and I'm waiting for a liberal to belly up to the bar and tell us all how we're going to cut that down.
    Easy. Get rid of it. Oh, and also the military. Well, ok, we'll leave one billion dollars for the military. Expand welfare for those who REALLY need it and let others plan out their own retirements.
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    Re: Top Treasury Official: Government Shut-Down May Be Unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How often have medicare, social security, and defense all been on the table for cuts, and what result did we end up with?

    Show me.
    The GOP won't touch Medicare or Social Security right now because they know they'd get their butts handed to them in the 2012 election. They'll go along with some cuts in defense spending as long as they are cuts both sides view as wasteful spending. SecDef Gates started down this road of identifying where defense cuts can come from last year. So, the Dems have the jump on them now. The GOP will play along for now in this regard, but they'll start to play-up their "disapproval" in how the Obama Administration is handling the War on Terror in Afghanistan eventually as the July 2011 early troop withdrawal date draws near.

    If you really want to know what the GOP plan is leading up to 2012, read the book "Revolt!" by Disk Morris & Eileen McGann. So far, the GOP has followed it step-by-step, but they'll start feeling some backlash very soon.

    Their effort to repeal ObamaCare didn't work (of course, they knew it wouldn't).

    Their efforts to defund ObamaCare will go largely unsuccessful because most of the funding has already been built into the law. (Thanks, Michelle Backmann, for making clear. And BTW, the $105 Billion price tag she flashed on poster board on Meet the Press recently, that figure and ALL of her talking points on it came directly from the book (page 112).)

    The GOPs next move is to give little chunks to spending bills, but keep forcing votes on short-term continuing resolutions throughout the rest of FY2011. If the government shuts down, oh, well. The objective isn't to put the country back on sound, economic footing. It's to paint the President in a bad light, to convince the People that he can't lead.

    Problem: People are more displeased with Congress than they are with the President. And considering that the mid-terms was about getting spending under control AND giving the GOP the opportunity to demonstrate that they could lead and be bipartisan moreso than the Dems AND get the economy moving again, I'd say they've done a lowsy job so far because their focus isn't on the economic recovery; it's about winning back the Presidency, maintaining control of the House and regaining control of the Senate. In short, their game plan is all about regaining power unto themselves, not about doing what's in the best interest of the country or the People.

    Read the book...their plan is laid out in black and white for all to see.
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    Re: Top Treasury Official: Government Shut-Down May Be Unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Easy. Get rid of it. Oh, and also the military. Well, ok, we'll leave one billion dollars for the military. Expand welfare for those who REALLY need it and let others plan out their own retirements.
    one billion dollars for the military won't even defend the borders why don't we also leave $450 for a court and federal prison system.

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    Re: Top Treasury Official: Government Shut-Down May Be Unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    one billion dollars for the military won't even defend the borders why don't we also leave $450 for a court and federal prison system.
    sounds good to me.
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