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Unions threaten Business

randel said:
has anyone showed up at your door with a gun?? i don't think so....again, quit with the theatrics
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Well I usually just send THE MOB a check......

.......if I didnt....the men with guns show up.......and take my money anyways.
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megaprogman said:
I have studied enough history to know not to selectively take pieces of it to promote my own agenda.



I see, and a Christian or Mormon group not buying from a business due to a moral concern is extortion then, by your logic.
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Its all about "POWER".....what power do Christian or Mormon groups hold over the citizenship...what positions of societal security are they THREATENING to invoke against anyone that does not "freely choose" to agree with their MORAL POSITION? The very reason that UNIONS and GOVERNMENTS are not compatible...when the "THUGS" realize they can abuse their positions of public trust to promote their AGENDA...whether it is an agenda of demanding MORE MONEY from the tax payers....or in this case MORE POWER, the oaths taken to protect and serve the PUBLIC becomes moot to the UNION agenda. Non Acceptable.
 
Badmutha said:
Well I usually just send THE MOB a check......

.......if I didnt....the men with guns show up.......and take my money anyways.
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no one is showing up at your door...grow the hell up....
 
Badmutha said:
Were tax dollars being used to fund the Edenton Tea Party?
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And tax payer dollars are not being used to boycott the business in Whineomhing

(rather the exact opposite dont you think
 
Badmutha said:
Welcome to WISCONSIN.......​

Our Unions are waiting to use your taxdollars.....​

.....to start a boycott of your business.​

Wisconsin Brown Shirts will be standing by to tell you where and where not to shop......

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Godwin....
 
First and foremost once the governmental workers are paid for the services they provide, the money they have earned is no longer taxpayer money. No more so then the money I paid to ford to buy the F150 is my money anymore. It is fords, up until ford uses that money to pay its suppliers (either of labor or parts). Once that money is paid it is the parts supplier or the labor suppliers. As the factory workers at ford have chosen to be unionizied they have choosen to use a portion of THEIR money to fund the union operations (not my money anymore)

Lastly a boycott is generally the lack of use of money rather then the use of money
 
Catawba said:
It is very sad to see how many can be so clueless while their freedoms are being taken away.
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which one of my freedoms' is being taken away?

randel said:
please explain how the unions will be using taxdollars to boycott businesses.....
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they won't be. and i suspect that this is more intimidation than it is honest threat. threat implies ability; and I frankly don't think that the unions would be able to carry off a boycott of that many businesses for that long, nor that it would necessarily shut down the businesses if they did.

what they may choose to do is to picket outside of (say) someone's restaraunt, and generally abuse and harass people working and shopping there. that would be a more effective intimidation; sort of a "you don't know if we will choose to destroy you, but it might be you, so sign the paper" kind of move.

but we shall have to see if that happens; if it does, i think it will backfire on them, just as a general strike would.
 
Badmutha said:
So how do we private citizens and private business conduct a boycott of UNION THUG SERVICES INC?............



So do you think life long Democrat voting Union slobs are going to..............Vote Democrat?



My union slob friend...........

...........Its WE THE TAXPAYING PEOPLE working in the private market that supply the benefits that union slobs enjoy.....every bloody cent.

Its the wallets and purses of Poor and Middle Class Taxpayers in the private market that have been the host organism to the ever growing 1000 lb union parasite......

.......the same Poor and Middle Class Private Market Taxpayers that have sacrificed time and time again........who cant afford to buy their own health insurance, their own retirement, their own roof and food...........

......because there too damn broke after paying for yours.
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First just to clear the air YOU are not my friend, YOU give me NOTHING, I work for and earn my pay check. Those who preceded me organized the workers and through an organized effort the workers were able to improve not only thier job conditions but also their living conditions.

Those YOU elected to office represented YOUR interests at the bargaining table if you felt the contract they negotiated was not in your best interest YOU should have voted them out of office. tHE TEACHERS in Wisconsin offered to renegotaite their wages, YOUR elected representative said NO, His primary goal the goal of the republicans is to weaken the middle class by taking away their collective bargaining rights, NOW the union membership will repond by removing their money from a company that used their union membership's money to fund his campaign,

They have a great idea in Wisconsin, in PA one of the large donors to the republican govenor "who was convicted in 97 of employing illegals" was giving a job as the State Treasurer will feel the financial bite at his business.

What governor Walker of Wisconsin started the union membership will finish, We don't need to picket we just need to keep our hard earned cash out of the pockets of those who donate to candidates who want to destroy our rights to organized representation at the bargaining table
 
EarlzP said:
First just to clear the air YOU are not my friend, YOU give me NOTHING, I work for and earn my pay check. Those who preceded me organized the workers and through an organized effort the workers were able to improve not only thier job conditions but also their living conditions.

Those YOU elected to office represented YOUR interests at the bargaining table if you felt the contract they negotiated was not in your best interest YOU should have voted them out of office. tHE TEACHERS in Wisconsin offered to renegotaite their wages, YOUR elected representative said NO, His primary goal the goal of the republicans is to weaken the middle class by taking away their collective bargaining rights, NOW the union membership will repond by removing their money from a company that used their union membership's money to fund his campaign,

They have a great idea in Wisconsin, in PA one of the large donors to the republican govenor "who was convicted in 97 of employing illegals" was giving a job as the State Treasurer will feel the financial bite at his business.

What governor Walker of Wisconsin started the union membership will finish, We don't need to picket we just need to keep our hard earned cash out of the pockets of those who donate to candidates who want to destroy our rights to organized representation at the bargaining table
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:applaud:applaud:applaud:cheers: AMEN!!
 
EarlzP said:
What governor Walker of Wisconsin started the union membership will finish, We don't need to picket we just need to keep our hard earned cash out of the pockets of those who donate to candidates who want to destroy our rights to organized representation at the bargaining table
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such rights do not exist for government workers. :sorry: it's called public service.
 
cpwill said:
such rights do not exist for government workers. :sorry: it's called public service.
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And? Call it what you will, there is no lawful block on trade union membership for government workers en masse.
 
Manc Skipper said:
And? Call it what you will, there is no lawful block on trade union membership for government workers en masse.
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sure there is. private sector unions serve as a potential veto over the owners of a facility. public sector unions serve as a potential veto over the people. the first is acceptable in the competition of the market. the second is rebellion and punishable by death. that being said, i'd wager that it's probably also punishable by saying "no, you can't do that".
 
Badmutha said:
The following letter is being sent out from Wisconsin Unions/THE MOB to Wisconsin Business Owners.......



Taking "Put the money in the bag.....or were gonna shut you down" to a whole new level.

This ****ing disgusts me.....these power hungry union slobs are a disgrace to this country......and piss poor excuses for Americans. A Union of little thug dictators.......its no wonder they prostitute for The Democrat Party and The Kenyan Tyrant. Birds of a feather....
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It looks like Wisconsin governor needs to do more to strip unions of their power. Maybe he should make Wisconsin a right to work and at will state.
 
jamesrage said:
It looks like Wisconsin governor needs to do more to strip unions of their power. Maybe he should make Wisconsin a right to work and at will state.
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you mean a right to work for less state?
 
randel said:
you mean a right to work for less state?
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:shrug: or i guess we could call it a 'right not to have a union limit employment availability' state?
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: or i guess we could call it a 'right not to have a union limit employment availability' state?
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mmmmmm....no....right to work for less is accurate.
 
depends on where you are. if you are not in a right to work state, for example, what you are in is a right to work for much less state.

trade unions (like the guilds that predated them) are good for their current and especially their senior members. by controlling the supply of that labor or service they are able to influence it's price upwards.

they just happen to be bad for everyone else in the economy.
 
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Lord Tammerlain said:
First and foremost once the governmental workers are paid for the services they provide, the money they have earned is no longer taxpayer money. No more so then the money I paid to ford to buy the F150 is my money anymore. It is fords, up until ford uses that money to pay its suppliers (either of labor or parts). Once that money is paid it is the parts supplier or the labor suppliers. As the factory workers at ford have chosen to be unionizied they have choosen to use a portion of THEIR money to fund the union operations (not my money anymore)
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Except the big difference being, you freely chose to buy the F-150.......the Ford Dealer didnt have to dispatch men with guns to your door to ensure you bought his product or service.

Lastly a boycott is generally the lack of use of money rather then the use of money
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THE MOB isnt going to stop spending money.......they just wont be spending money at the businesses that dont abide by their political will.
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EarlzP said:
First just to clear the air YOU are not my friend, YOU give me NOTHING, I work for and earn my pay check. Those who preceded me organized the workers and through an organized effort the workers were able to improve not only thier job conditions but also their living conditions.
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Your right....nothing is given to you......its fleeced from Poor and Middle Class taxpayers under the threat of brute force......

.....the same Poor and Middle Class Taxpayers that have smaller salaries and fewer benefits.

Those YOU elected to office represented YOUR interests at the bargaining table if you felt the contract they negotiated was not in your best interest YOU should have voted them out of office. tHE TEACHERS in Wisconsin offered to renegotaite their wages, YOUR elected representative said NO, His primary goal the goal of the republicans is to weaken the middle class by taking away their collective bargaining rights, NOW the union membership will repond by removing their money from a company that used their union membership's money to fund his campaign,
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Well here is a newsflash.....Wisconsin voters elected a Pro-Taxpayer/Anit-Public Union Governor and Government......as did many other states. The Bargaining Table of the past, which entailed never satisfied Union Slobs on one side and Democrat Politicians promising them the world on the other, is no more.

They have a great idea in Wisconsin, in PA one of the large donors to the republican govenor "who was convicted in 97 of employing illegals" was giving a job as the State Treasurer will feel the financial bite at his business.

What governor Walker of Wisconsin started the union membership will finish, We don't need to picket we just need to keep our hard earned cash out of the pockets of those who donate to candidates who want to destroy our rights to organized representation at the bargaining table
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Well considering 95% of business owners vote Non-Democrat........good luck!
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cpwill said:
depends on where you are. if you are not in a right to work state, for example, what you are in is a right to work for much less state.

trade unions (like the guilds that predated them) are good for their current and especially their senior members. by controlling the supply of that labor or service they are able to influence it's price upwards.

they just happen to be bad for everyone else in the economy.
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union shops bring up the wages of non-union shops that do similar work in their area, that is a benefit to those in non-union shops, and as a whole, thanks to unions, benefits are better for everyone.

i know many here , the hardcore 'conservatives' are happy with the way wisconsin turned out, but rest assured, that battle isnt over by a longshot...why are those hardcore 'conservatives' happy with what happened? because they see it as a crippling blow to the democrats, that will hurt them financially come the next election. if these 'conservatives' were honest in public, they would admit that what walker did was union busting, and had very precious little to do with 'balancing the budget' as walker claimed...listen to the phone call he had with the supposed koch brother...this wasnt about the budget, sorry, it wasnt.... i've also read on this forum that these wisconsin union members have 'state protections' and don't need unions....with the unions out of the way, who enforces these 'protections'? protections are no good with no one to enforce them, and are we honestly going to argue that those who are elected to do the business of Big Business really give a rat's ass about 'employee protections'?? enforcing these 'employee rights' takes money, it takes organization, it takes lawyers...very few people on their own can afford a protracted legal fight. This is one of the main purposes of unions, to enforce 'employee rights'. with unions out of the way, these rights and protections start dissapearing.
 
randel said:
no one is showing up at your door...grow the hell up....
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Yes of course.......try and boycott UNION THUG SERVICES INC.......see what happens.....
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randel said:
union shops bring up the wages of non-union shops that do similar work in their area, that is a benefit to those in non-union shops, and as a whole, thanks to unions, benefits are better for everyone.

i know many here , the hardcore 'conservatives' are happy with the way wisconsin turned out, but rest assured, that battle isnt over by a longshot...why are those hardcore 'conservatives' happy with what happened? because they see it as a crippling blow to the democrats, that will hurt them financially come the next election. if these 'conservatives' were honest in public, they would admit that what walker did was union busting, and had very precious little to do with 'balancing the budget' as walker claimed...listen to the phone call he had with the supposed koch brother...this wasnt about the budget, sorry, it wasnt.... i've also read on this forum that these wisconsin union members have 'state protections' and don't need unions....with the unions out of the way, who enforces these 'protections'? protections are no good with no one to enforce them, and are we honestly going to argue that those who are elected to do the business of Big Business really give a rat's ass about 'employee protections'?? enforcing these 'employee rights' takes money, it takes organization, it takes lawyers...very few people on their own can afford a protracted legal fight. This is one of the main purposes of unions, to enforce 'employee rights'. with unions out of the way, these rights and protections start dissapearing.
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What you call union busting, many of the rest of us call reining in the power of public sector employees and giving more power to the individual schools, cities and towns to balance their budgets.

I agree with you. Wisconsin isn't over by a long shot. Time will tell. I hope Governor Walker goes on a PR campaign to educate people on exactly what happened. And part of what happened is that the Wisconsin 14 fled the state in order to give some unions an opportunity to get their contracts signed before the law was passed. Madison's mayor being the most notable.
 
Badmutha said:
Yes of course.......try and boycott UNION THUG SERVICES INC.......see what happens.....
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you realize of course, how assinine you sound?
 
Badmutha said:
Well considering 95% of business owners vote Non-Democrat........good luck!
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exactly. wealth creators tend to vote Republican. Wealth consumers tend to vote Democrat.


Randel: Wisconsin just became like 26 other states and still has more collective bargaining for it's employees than the federal government. what in the world is "hardcore" about that?
 
randel said:
you mean a right to work for less state?
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A right to work state means that joining a union and paying union dues is not a precondition to getting a job. If you believe collective bargaining is a right then doesn't a right mean that its optional for you to exercise? Shouldn't someone be free to not join a if they choose not to or to join or form a union of their own choosing if they do not like the union that is available?
 
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