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Unions threaten Business

TurtleDude said:
you cannot avoid dealing with the government or public sector unions
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The last time I had to deal directly with a public sector union employee is when I had to get my passport renewed. Otherwise my direct interaction with the government is limited to perhaps once a year
 
MaggieD said:
:rofl :rofl -- Sometimes consensus means we're both wrong!!
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Yep, I just checked. Nixon/Ford were the last Republican presidents to lower the National Debt.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
The last time I had to deal directly with a public sector union employee is when I had to get my passport renewed. Otherwise my direct interaction with the government is limited to perhaps once a year
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do you pay taxes? get driver's license? mail a letter? etc
 
Catawba said:
Yep, I just checked. Nixon/Ford were the last Republican presidents to lower the National Debt.
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how is obama doing on that front?
 
TurtleDude said:
how is obama doing on that front?
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Given the the greatest recession since the great depression he inherited, not bad for just half a term. Democrat presidents still hold a 2 to 0 advantage over the GOP since 1976.

If the Democrats are successful in ending the temporary tax breaks for the top 1%, then we have a chance to reduce the National debt. Trickle down theory has been a proven failure for 3 decades.
 
Catawba said:
Given the the greatest recession since the great depression he inherited, not bad for just half a term. Democrat presidents still hold a 2 to 0 advantage over the GOP since 1976.

If the Democrats are successful in ending the temporary tax breaks for the top 1%, then we have a chance to reduce the National debt. Trickle down theory has been a proven failure for 3 decades.
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remind me the congressional control for the various presidents. How is trickle down a failure?

we have a huge national debt because those seduced into voting for big spending politicians aren't properly charged with paying for that spending.
 
TurtleDude said:
psychobabble-how is FDR and Obama figure into your nonsense and what was congress doing?
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Under FDR THE national debt was reduced by are you ready............ 24.4 %. President Obama will have 6 more years so I guess we will have to wait and see, it is going to be really hard for him he inherited a economic mess at a time when our economy is being shipped to foreign countries. To make matters worst he has to try to work with a republicans party that has only one agenda that being to defeat him in 2012. I think the republicans threw the elections why else would they run McCain and Palin.
 
TurtleDude said:
do you pay taxes? get driver's license? mail a letter? etc
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My taxes are paid once a year, property taxes are done through the bank (as part of mortgage

I never mail letters

and the equivalent of the DMV here is private
 
megaprogman said:
It is everyone's fundamental right as it is their right not not buy from you (assuming you are a business owner) if they don't like you or for any arbitrary reason they see fit, even silly stuff like not liking the color of your shoes. Political differences are no more or less meaningful in that respect.
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So it would also be my fundamental right to not buy from UNION THUG SERVICES INC..........would it not?

So it would also be my fundamental right to opt out of buying the Bloated Salaries, Gold Plated Health Care, and Diamond Inlayed Pensions of all Public Sector Union slobs.....

This whole notion of being harrassed, because you did not receive a purchase, is silly for that reason.
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Whats silly......is should anyone express their "fundamental right" to boycott union services.........

..........men with guns are dispatched to their door.

Liberal Hypocrisy knows no bounds.....
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Badmutha said:
So it would also be my fundamental right to not buy from UNION THUG SERVICES INC..........would it not?

So it would also be my fundamental right to opt out of buying the Bloated Salaries, Gold Plated Health Care, and Diamond Inlayed Pensions of all Public Sector Union slobs.....



Whats silly......is should anyone express their "fundamental right" to boycott union services.........

..........men with guns are dispatched to their door.

Liberal Hypocrisy knows no bounds.....
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You are not dealing with a union in such cases, you are dealing with the duely elected government which you have the opportunity to select or deselect as you choose at election time

The employer (in this case is the government) is the one dealing with the union, not you or me. When I go to the passport office I am dealing with a government employee. Who is at that time representing the government, not the union. I never have had to deal with a public sector union. The only time I have had to deal with a private sector union is when I was part of one. When I shop at grocery stores that are unionized, I dont deal with the union, I deal with employees of that company. If I have a complaint about said workers performance I talk to the company, not the union.


Which means none, not one of the services I pay for are "union" services. They are either government supplied services or privately supplied services. I pay the government or the company for those services not the union. The employee pays the union for the services the union provides to him/her. Not me
 
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Chappy said:
I would say the president cannot withhold public services to political opponents. Your analogy is inappropriate.

What would you say if Rush Limbaugh said you should withhold your patronage of Comcast unless they fire Rachel Maddow from MSNBC? Is that extortion?
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Do your tax dollars fund Rush Limbaugh?
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Badmutha said:
The following letter is being sent out from Wisconsin Unions/THE MOB to Wisconsin Business Owners.......



Taking "Put the money in the bag.....or were gonna shut you down" to a whole new level.

This ****ing disgusts me.....these power hungry union slobs are a disgrace to this country......and piss poor excuses for Americans. A Union of little thug dictators.......its no wonder they prostitute for The Democrat Party and The Kenyan Tyrant. Birds of a feather....
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Hey unions, we're gona boycott your ass. Go **** yourselves.
 
EarlzP said:
The only thing I see wrong with this approach is that it did not start soon enough, I will definitely support any and all boycotts that target the supporters of those who try to take away the collective bargaining rights of any public or private worker.
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So how do we private citizens and private business conduct a boycott of UNION THUG SERVICES INC?............

You should never wake up a sleeping giant. Gov Walker had an opportunity to negotiate a cost saving agreement with the teacher's union and he was not going to satisfied until he took away their right to have representation, we all have a right to assemble and work for the common good
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So do you think life long Democrat voting Union slobs are going to..............Vote Democrat?

Every one should have had to sacrifice a little to help during these hard economic times, that includes the insurance companies that supply the benefits for these workers
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My union slob friend...........

...........Its WE THE TAXPAYING PEOPLE working in the private market that supply the benefits that union slobs enjoy.....every bloody cent.

Its the wallets and purses of Poor and Middle Class Taxpayers in the private market that have been the host organism to the ever growing 1000 lb union parasite......

.......the same Poor and Middle Class Private Market Taxpayers that have sacrificed time and time again........who cant afford to buy their own health insurance, their own retirement, their own roof and food...........

......because there too damn broke after paying for yours.
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Badmutha said:
So how do we private citizens and private business conduct a boycott of UNION THUG SERVICES INC?............



So do you think life long Democrat voting Union slobs are going to..............Vote Democrat?



My union slob friend...........

...........Its WE THE TAXPAYING PEOPLE working in the private market that supply the benefits that union slobs enjoy.....every bloody cent.

Its the wallets and purses of Poor and Middle Class Taxpayers in the private market that have been the host organism to the ever growing 1000 lb union parasite......

.......the same Poor and Middle Class Private Market Taxpayers that have sacrificed time and time again........who cant afford to buy their own health insurance, their own retirement, their own roof and food...........

......because their too damn broke after paying for yours.
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you seem to forget that union members are tax payers to...
 
randel said:
you seem to forget that union members are tax payers to...
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Never said they werent......

......except they are the only taxpayers in this county who get a 10,000% return for every tax dollar paid.

.....and only after that dollar is first stolen from a Private Market worker of business.
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Badmutha said:
Never said they werent......

......except they are the only taxpayers in this county who get a 10,000% return for every tax dollar paid.

.....and only after that dollar is first stolen from a Private Market worker of business.
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nothing has been stolen.....quit the theatrics
 
randel said:
nothing has been stolen.....quit the theatrics
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Right....paying taxes is "voluntary".........except men with guns come to your door should you choose to not volunteer.

Its not a burglary.....its a robbery.....and the unions gladly accept the stolen goods.
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First They Came For the Labor Unions. Then They Came for the Immigrants. Who's Next?

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"The divide-and-conquer attack on working people by Wisconsin Republicans continues. After pitting private sector workers versus public employees, Walker and the GOP are now targeting Wisconsin's quickly-growing Latino and immigrant communities.

The latest census numbers show that Wisconsin's Latino community has grown by 74 percent in recent years, and GOP lawmakers have responded aggressively to this shift in Wisconsin's ethnic composition. Walker's budget eliminates laws that had treated immigrants humanely, and a GOP bill circulating through the legislature seeks to impose a draconian racial profiling bill modeled after Arizona's SB1070. What's more, the anti-immigrant sentiment may be fueling the out-of-state effort to recall Wisconsin's Democratic Senators."

First They Came For the Labor Unions. Then They Came for the Immigrants. Who's Next? | Center for Media and Democracy
 
Badmutha said:
Right....paying taxes is "voluntary".........except men with guns come to your door should you choose to not volunteer.

Its not a burglary.....its a robbery.....and the unions gladly accept the stolen goods.
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has anyone showed up at your door with a gun?? i don't think so....again, quit with the theatrics
 
Catawba said:
First They Came For the Labor Unions. Then They Came for the Immigrants. Who's Next?

"The divide-and-conquer attack on working people by Wisconsin Republicans continues. After pitting private sector workers versus public employees, Walker and the GOP are now targeting Wisconsin's quickly-growing Latino and immigrant communities.

The latest census numbers show that Wisconsin's Latino community has grown by 74 percent in recent years, and GOP lawmakers have responded aggressively to this shift in Wisconsin's ethnic composition. Walker's budget eliminates laws that had treated immigrants humanely, and a GOP bill circulating through the legislature seeks to impose a draconian racial profiling bill modeled after Arizona's SB1070. What's more, the anti-immigrant sentiment may be fueling the out-of-state effort to recall Wisconsin's Democratic Senators."

First They Came For the Labor Unions. Then They Came for the Immigrants. Who's Next? | Center for Media and Democracy
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It is a trait of conservatives everywhere, here in the UK we have had six months of Public Sector worker bashing to soften us up for the inevitable cutting. What really disgusts me are conservatives who "wrap themselves in the flag" when Public Sector workers become the heroes du jour while they are constantly searching for ways to recompense their heroes a few pennies less.
 
Welcome to WISCONSIN.......​

Our Unions are waiting to use your taxdollars.....​

.....to start a boycott of your business.​

Wisconsin Brown Shirts will be standing by to tell you where and where not to shop......

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William Rea said:
It is a trait of conservatives everywhere, here in the UK we have had six months of Public Sector worker bashing to soften us up for the inevitable cutting. What really disgusts me are conservatives who "wrap themselves in the flag" when Public Sector workers become the heroes du jour while they are constantly searching for ways to recompense their heroes a few pennies less.
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It is very sad to see how many can be so clueless while their freedoms are being taken away.
 
Badmutha said:
Welcome to WISCONSIN.......​

Our Unions are waiting to use your taxdollars.....​

.....to start a boycott of your business.​

Wisconsin Brown Shirts will be standing by to tell you where and where not to shop......

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so.....please explain how the unions will be using taxdollars to boycott businesses.....
 
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