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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    How about the IBEW? And BTW auto companies hurt themselves. The unions didn't do it. There are less union workers in the auto industry and it's still having issues. But executive pay has risen ten fold. But I know its PC these days to blame unions for bad management
    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    No I mean 99.99% of businesses in the United States.

    Nobody wants THE MOB running their business..........

    .....perhaps if there was ONE EXAMPLE IN WORLD HISTORY of a Union not running a business it infected into the ground......business owners might feel different.
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    Walmart doesnt have to encourage US Businesses to relocate to China..........The end of a Democrat Whip is doing the job for them.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    How about the IBEW?
    What about it?

    Surely you hired Union Electricians to work on or install the electrical system in your home right?

    And BTW auto companies hurt themselves. The unions didn't do it. There are less union workers in the auto industry and it's still having issues. But executive pay has risen ten fold. But I know its PC these days to blame unions for bad management
    Right.....the fact that Auto Companies are spending more on Pensions/Health Plans than actually producing their product..........has nothing to do with their downfall.


    GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000
    Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418

    GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
    Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000

    They both sold the same number of cars.........one made a profit......one had the UAW.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Great. I'm happy for you, but my anecdote about the UofC was MEANT to be an exception to the rule (I'm glad we agree). Nonetheless, my actual criticism of your assumption still stands:



    In other words, why would you go to a school (top 10 or not) if it doesn't have the major you want?
    dozens of news programs have noted that the teaching profession is not drawing the best and the brightest of our highschool and college students.

    Kihn & Miller: Why aren't America's teachers the best and brightest?

    So why do top U.S. college students have so little interest in teaching careers compared with their counterparts in the world's best-performing nations

    A teaching career does not offer our nation's top college graduates a compelling peer group, opportunities for continued learning or the prestige of other professions



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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Why didn't the companies invest the money if they knew they were going to agree to legacy costs? That is like working all week and at the end the boss says you cost too much. They knew the costs going in and agreed with them. And by that way I have had IBEW guys work for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    What about it?

    Surely you hired Union Electricians to work on or install the electrical system in your home right?



    Right.....the fact that Auto Companies are spending more on Pensions/Health Plans than actually producing their product..........has nothing to do with their downfall.


    GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000
    Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418

    GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
    Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000

    ..........one made a profit......one had the UAW.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    What about it?

    Surely you hired Union Electricians to work on or install the electrical system in your home right?



    Right.....the fact that Auto Companies are spending more on Pensions/Health Plans than actually producing their product..........has nothing to do with their downfall.


    GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000
    Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418

    GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
    Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000

    They both sold the same number of cars.........one made a profit......one had the UAW.
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    One had exceptional American management

    One had good Japanese management
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    BTW the graph doesn't give a breakdown of costs. From what I understand Toyota executives don't make what GM execs did. Especially in 2007. And the other thing is GM built ugly ass cars. That isn't the unions fault either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    What about it?

    Surely you hired Union Electricians to work on or install the electrical system in your home right?



    Right.....the fact that Auto Companies are spending more on Pensions/Health Plans than actually producing their product..........has nothing to do with their downfall.


    GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000
    Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418

    GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
    Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000

    They both sold the same number of cars.........one made a profit......one had the UAW.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    Why didn't the companies invest the money if they knew they were going to agree to legacy costs? That is like working all week and at the end the boss says you cost too much. They knew the costs going in and agreed with them.
    Well here is the negotiation that takes place between Unions and GM/Any business............

    "Put the Money In the Bag, or Were Gonna Shut You Down"

    .......what would you do if you were GM?
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    And by that way I have had IBEW guys work for me.
    Of course you have..........and the crowds at EVIL Walmart are all Black Republicans.........
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    dozens of news programs have noted that the teaching profession is not drawing the best and the brightest of our highschool and college students.

    Kihn & Miller: Why aren't America's teachers the best and brightest?

    So why do top U.S. college students have so little interest in teaching careers compared with their counterparts in the world's best-performing nations

    A teaching career does not offer our nation's top college graduates a compelling peer group, opportunities for continued learning or the prestige of other professions
    I agree with this - most people who go to top tier schools or who are the top in non-pre-education majors don't become teachers (which is why our stories are the exception). I'm still failing to see that teachers are the "bottom of the barrel". Why aren't they just average as people in other professions with a few being extremely smart or stupid? What makes them the "bottom of the barrel"?

    And what evidence is there that teachers go into the profession because they aren't the "best and brightest"? We've already established that there isn't any evidence that they go in for the summer break.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    One had exceptional American management
    ....and the UAW

    One had good Japanese management
    ....without the UAW

    GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
    Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    I think you watch too much TV. If I were GM I would have built cars people wanted. I would have stayed out of the mortgage business and a host of other side business and concentrated on my main business. Cars. But thats just me. Ford did OK with unions and all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Well here is the negotiation that takes place between Unions and GM/Any business............

    "Put the Money In the Bag, or Were Gonna Shut You Down"

    .......what would you do if you were GM?
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    Of course you have..........and the crowds at EVIL Walmart are all Black Republicans.........
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