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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, in other words, "If you're not willing to pay even more goddamn taxes, so we can keep our fatcat salaries and sweetheart bennies …". …
    I just reread the letter again; there's nothing about taxes or compensation at all. It's about the right to collectively bargain. Your “other words” are your words and as it turns out your words are (no surprise!) flat out lies.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I see I have reduced you to making assertions without backing up your statement with logic or examples.
    like your asinine assertion I hate Christians?

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Translation:
    If you side with those Republican bastards, we'll make sure you're business is driven into the ground until it folds up like a house of paper.
    actually, you'll note, it's: "if you don't side with the demonions" (do they each really need their own name at this point?), then we'll get you. no neutrals allowed in this fight.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I just reread the letter again; there's nothing about taxes or compensation at all. It's about the right to collectively bargain. Your “other words” are your words and as it turns out your words are (no surprise!) flat out lies.
    Where does the money come from to pay public employees? To close the hole in the budget, they must either raise taxes, or lower wages and bennies for public employees. Those are really the only options, aside from paying people off.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Not everyone wishes to bargain as a group. However, because a right isn't exercised does not mean it doesn't exist. I don't own a gun for example.
    Ok, where in the US code, or the Constitution, does it say that collective bargaining is a right? As always, thanks in advance.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    actually, you'll note, it's: "if you don't side with the demonions" (do they each really need their own name at this point?), then we'll get you. no neutrals allowed in this fight.
    good point. I missed the 'if you're not publicly with us, you're against us' part.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Where does the money come from to pay public employees? To close the hole in the budget, they must either raise taxes, or lower wages and bennies for public employees. Those are really the only options, aside from paying people off.
    The teachers union had offered to take a cut in wages but that was never the primary objective of the republicans, nothing would satisfy them unless they could remove the collective bargaining rights of the unions, their are other ways to bring the budget under control, how about if the insurance companies contracted to supply health benefits take a reduction in premiums? Maybe once the supporters of the Governor feel a financial bite from the boycott they will exert a little pressure on Gov Walker to enter into honest negotiations instead of strong arm tactics

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    The boycott will fail. They almost always do. Then we'll see vandalism to businesses and business vehicles and then the homes of individuals and then we will see attacks on people by the union thugs. That's all they can do.

    I wonder what would happen today if I put a sign on my business in Madison, People's Republic of, that said simply, "I support Governor Walker."
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    like your asinine assertion I hate Christians?
    Then please tell me how you are not supporting a double standard.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, where in the US code, or the Constitution, does it say that collective bargaining is a right? As always, thanks in advance.
    first amendment, freedom of association, that combined with the fact that courts have long upheld the right of people to enter into a contract, as I have pointed out.
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