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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    $32 billion worth of sales taxes wage taxes, saved unemployment.? Maybe, maybe not.

    And it sounds like he did some spending too, with all those corridors and courts.

    Final balance?
    I believe the number was millions according to Haymarket but who knows. What I do know is that Michigan required a balanced budget and if so then what right does the state have to the taxpayer surpluses?

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

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    And you offer no proof of that at all.
    LOL, yeah, right, Detroit is a model city, the auto industry is in shambles, you have 10.4% unemployment and continue to lose population each year. That is a liberal success story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah I forgot you have the legal training to really analyze the decisions. Did you ever figure out how silly Breyer's dissent was in HELLER? He believes that a right should change based on the political environment of different parts of America.

    using his logic, the police in a high crime neighborhood would not have to read miranda rights to a mope while those in a low crime area might have to.
    Wait a minute here. You are the same guy in the TAXATION thread who keeps maintaining that there is a tax on death when you have failed for weeks to find anything in the actual law to support you despite being challenged time and time and time again. You are the same guy who ignores the actual language in the federal statute. You are the same guy who ignores the language from his own state government on the estate tax. I have asked you over and over and over again this same question

    Can you show us where in the law, it is the act of DEATH that is taxed independent and apart from any transfer of wealth to another person?

    Should be easy for somebody who claims to be a fancy Ivy League educated hot shot attorney. But you have stayed away from it like a vampire from a garlic salesman at high noon.


    When you finally cash that check that your mouth has already written and back it up with solid legal evidence, come on back to discuss the law. Until that time your credibility - what ever there may have been of it - is gone with the wind on legal matters.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, yeah, right, Detroit is a model city, the auto industry is in shambles, you have 10.4% unemployment and continue to lose population each year. That is a liberal success story.
    Again, you post things that do not even come within a mile of what you were actually challenged to do. But what else is new? Oh yeah, the sun rises in the east tomorrow.

    this was your boast

    Your state is a disaster and it is all due to unions and liberal social engineering.
    now prove that.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Wait a minute here. You are the same guy in the TAXATION thread who keeps maintaining that there is a tax on death when you have failed for weeks to find anything in the actual law to support you despite being challenged time and time and time again. You are the same guy who ignores the actual language in the federal statute. You are the same guy who ignores the language from his own state government on the estate tax. When you finally cash that check that your mouth has already written and back it up with solid legal evidence, come on back to discuss the law. Until that time your credibility - what ever there may have been of it - is gone with the wind on legal matters.
    remind me of how many cases you have argued to federal appellate courts.

    We know how you operate-you already admitted to being a paid dem hack. we get your position-if it helps the dems its good, if it helps America its bad



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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, yeah, right, Detroit is a model city, the auto industry is in shambles, you have 10.4% unemployment and continue to lose population each year. That is a liberal success story.
    another victim of Dem unions, dem teachers and black gangster politicians (dems of course)



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    remind me of how many cases you have argued to federal appellate courts.

    We know how you operate-you already admitted to being a paid dem hack. we get your position-if it helps the dems its good, if it helps America its bad
    You show no evidence in these threads that you know a lawyer let alone are one. Of course, I imagine that family money and legacy does get the whelps of the rich certain benefits apart from merit or intelligence so anything is possible.

    You are the same guy in the TAXATION thread who keeps maintaining that there is a tax on death when you have failed for weeks to find anything in the actual law to support you despite being challenged time and time and time again. You are the same guy who ignores the actual language in the federal statute. You are the same guy who ignores the language from his own state government on the estate tax. I have asked you over and over and over again this same question

    Can you show us where in the law, it is the act of DEATH that is taxed independent and apart from any transfer of wealth to another person?

    Should be easy for somebody who claims to be a fancy Ivy League educated hot shot attorney. But you have stayed away from it like a vampire from a garlic salesman at high noon.


    When you finally cash that check that your mouth has already written and back it up with solid legal evidence, come on back to discuss the law. Until that time your credibility - what ever there may have been of it - is gone with the wind on legal matters.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    what causes the death tax to come into play

    1) amassing a fortune after paying huge amounts of taxes on it

    2) writing a will

    3) dying

    and Haymarket, anytime you want to compare academic resumes I would be happy to oblige you. I don't have a single attorney in my family and thus I had no "legacy" advantages in getting into places such as Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Cornell, NYU, etc



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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what causes the death tax to come into play

    1) amassing a fortune after paying huge amounts of taxes on it

    2) writing a will

    3) dying

    and Haymarket, anytime you want to compare academic resumes I would be happy to oblige you. I don't have a single attorney in my family and thus I had no "legacy" advantages in getting into places such as Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Cornell, NYU, etc
    Sure thing. Send me your resume and I will be happy to compare it to mine.

    You keep avoiding this like the plague and you cling to the hope that your mouth can get you out of this simply by making excuses. You are the fancy attorney with the education. This should be easy for you:

    Can you show us where in the law, it is the act of DEATH that is taxed independent and apart from any transfer of wealth to another person?
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sure thing. Send me your resume and I will be happy to compare it to mine.

    You keep avoiding this like the plague and you cling to the hope that your mouth can get you out of this simply by making excuses. You are the fancy attorney with the education. This should be easy for you:

    Can you show us where in the law, it is the act of DEATH that is taxed independent and apart from any transfer of wealth to another person?
    you frame the issue dishonestly

    no one said death is taxed-we said death causes the tax to become an issue

    thus death tax is more a valid description than "estate Tax'

    your defense of calling that abomination a less negative term is touching

    but the act of creating an estate has already been taxed and your beloved death tax does not vest until its owner DIES



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