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    Re: Unions threaten Business

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    You are indeed clueless. What do you think was one of Englers tax cuts? Gasoline taxes in the state which cut the money to repair highways.

    You don't have a clue and its obvious with each and every post you make.
    LOL, sorry to confuse you with facts, Engler did a great job in Michigan and was a two term governor. He created 800,000 jobs and that really must tick you off as he did it without expansion of govt. Have never seen the excise taxes on gasoline cut, so prove it although it doesn't really matter. Federal Highways are funded by the Federal Excise tax and Engler couldn't cut those. I really don't think you have a clue what happened in the 90's as evidenced by your posts.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

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    You are indeed clueless. What do you think was one of Englers tax cuts? Gasoline taxes in the state which cut the money to repair highways.

    You don't have a clue and its obvious with each and every post you make.
    Apparently you don't have a clue, here are the Engler Tax cuts, where are excise taxes cut? Also notice the surplus he generated so stop with the lies.

    Governor Engler's straightforward strategy of cutting taxes to create jobs has pulled Michigan out of its inherited budget deficit and blessed taxpayers with a $1 billion surplus. As part of his "Taxpayer's Agenda" plan to revitalize Michigan, Engler has acted aggressively to reduce the tax burden on both families and new businesses. With nine tax cuts enacted in 1995, Michigan taxpayers are now benefitting from a total of 21 tax cuts since 1991. They include:

    Cutting school-operating property taxes from an average 36 mills to 6 mills -- the biggest tax cut in Michigan's history ($3.4 billion). Associated with this cut is a cap that keeps assessments from rising more than the rate of inflation.
    Cutting the personal income tax from 4.6 percent to 4.4 percent -- the lowest level since 1975.
    Raising the personal exemption for the state income tax and indexing the exemption to rise with inflation.
    Eliminating the state inheritance tax.
    Increasing deductions for interest and dividend income for senior citizens.
    Increasing the maximum single business credit limit on small business income.
    Revising the apportionment of the Single Business Tax (SBT) base.
    A 2 percent income tax rebate in order to comply with the Headlee Amendment limitations on government revenue.
    Creating a limited exemption from the sales tax for commercial advertising.
    Eliminating from the business tax base the cost of workers' compensation, social security, and unemployment insurance.
    Phasing out and eliminating the "intangibles tax" -- Michigan's unfair and counterproductive capital gains tax.
    Virtually eliminating the state tax on private pensions with a $60,000 exemption for married couples and $30,000 for individuals.
    Reducing the state's main business tax, the Single Business Tax, from 2.35 percent to 2.3 percent.
    Raising the filing threshold for the SBT from $40,000 to $100,000.
    Further raising the filing threshold for the SBT from $100,000 to $250,000.
    Cutting the SBT alternative profits tax from 4 percent to 3 percent.
    Reducing the SBT alternative profits tax again -- from 3 percent to 2 percent.
    Reducing the minimum unemployment insurance tax.
    Changing the definitions of homesteads to provide property tax relief for Michigan farmers.
    Freezing property tax assessments for one year.
    Creating a nonrefundable income tax credit for college tuition paid on behalf of a dependent or a taxpayer.

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    The net effect of Governor Engler's tax cuts has been to save Michigan taxpayers more than $1.7 billion this year alone and a total of more $6.5 billion since 1991. In addition, the state's tax structure is much more competitive when compared to other states. For example, Michigan's property taxes are nearly 10 percent below the national average. In addition, the state's tax burden as a percent of personal income has dropped from 16th in the nation to 27th.

    The results for Michigan's economy have been impressive. In 1994, the state unemployment rate was below the national average for the first time since 1966. Unemployment for every month of 1996 has been below 5 percent, putting Michigan on track to end the year with the lowest unemployment rate since 1969. With employment growth of more than 500,000 since 1991, the number of Michigan men and women with jobs has reached a record high.

    Michigan has also improved from having one of the worst unemployment rates among the industrial states to one of the best. Unemployment has also been cut in half in Detroit and -- a record duplicated by most Michigan cities.

    The strength of Michigan's economy is further reflected in increasing purchasing power for Michigan families. In 1995, per capita personal income grew by 6.2 percent, one of the fastest growth rates in America. Michigan also climbed from 18th to 15th in the nation in personal income. In addition, from 1991 through 1995, Michigan ranked number one in the nation in income growth. Contributing to income growth was the fact that in 1995 alone, Michigan created one out of every five manufacturing jobs nationwide.

    As Governor Engler puts it, "Michigan has been transformed from the broken buckle of the Rust Belt to the turbocharged engine powering the High Performance Heartland."

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    The net effect of Governor Engler's tax cuts has been to save Michigan taxpayers more than $1.7 billion this year alone and a total of more $6.5 billion...

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

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    LOL, sorry to confuse you with facts, Engler did a great job in Michigan and was a two term governor. He created 800,000 jobs and that really must tick you off as he did it without expansion of govt. Have never seen the excise taxes on gasoline cut, so prove it although it doesn't really matter. Federal Highways are funded by the Federal Excise tax and Engler couldn't cut those. I really don't think you have a clue what happened in the 90's as evidenced by your posts.
    You are hopeless. State gas taxes were cut under Engler. State expenditures on infrastructure went down. We have lots of roads which are state and local roads - NOT FEDERAL WITH FED FUNDING. Like you don;t know that? The cuts he made impacted us really hard after he left and the Republicans who control the state Senate refuse to do any meaningful tax reform.

    Engler did grow government however, Corrections increased top the point where we went on a prison building spree. Every single one of the new prisons was built in out state Republican areas providing jobs to strapping farm boys who could no longer cut in on the back forty. When Engler emptied the mental health institutions and hospitals, many ended up in prisons. Yeah, great guy you Engler is.

    what is ;your source for that list? It seems to be noticably absent.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You are hopeless. State gas taxes were cut under Engler. State expenditures on infrastructure went down. We have lots of roads which are state and local roads - NOT FEDERAL WITH FED FUNDING. Like you don;t know that? The cuts he made impacted us really hard after he left and the Republicans who control the state Senate refuse to do any meaningful tax reform.

    Engler did grow government however, Corrections increased top the point where we went on a prison building spree. Every single one of the new prisons was built in out state Republican areas providing jobs to strapping farm boys who could no longer cut in on the back forty. When Engler emptied the mental health institutions and hospitals, many ended up in prisons. Yeah, great guy you Engler is.
    AS has been pointed out Engler created a surplus, 800,000 jobs, and cut taxes and yet you believe he should have overtaxed the people in the state. that is liberalism, end of debate.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

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    AS has been pointed out Engler created a surplus, 800,000 jobs, and cut taxes and yet you believe he should have overtaxed the people in the state. that is liberalism, end of debate.
    When your boy Bush cut Federal funds. Engler cut $96 million from state transportation funds to other departments and the roads suffered.

    Chimes: Bush slashes Michigan highway repair funds
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    When your boy Bush cut Federal funds. Engler cut $96 million from state transportation funds to other departments and the roads suffered.

    Chimes: Bush slashes Michigan highway repair funds
    Don't recall Engler being in office in 2003. As I recall Engler left office ithe end of 2002

    From your article

    The budget would slash $222 million in federal highway funding for Michigan in 2003.


    You are really desparate as most liberals are
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

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    Don't recall Engler being in office in 2003. As I recall Engler left office when Bush took office

    From your article



    You are really desparate as most liberals are
    Are you not aware that budgets can overlap from one administration to another and one year to another? You really need to get educated about government. And here is the situation the new Democratic governor found herself in thanks to John Engler and his years in office slashing taxes .... from Wikipedia

    Governor
    Granholm was sworn in as the 47th Governor of the state of Michigan on January 1, 2003. The main issue facing the governor has been the massive budget deficit. Granholm has had to eliminate upwards of $200 per person from state budget expenditures, successfully resolving over $6 billion in budget deficits. She has emphasized the need for the state to attract young people and businesses to Michigan via the Cool Cities Initiative.[14][15] As Governor, she is a member of the National Governors Association. She is chair of the Health and Human Services Committee and is co-chair of the Health Care Task Force of the National Governors Association. She is also a former Chair of the Midwestern Governors Association. She lives in the official Michigan Governor's Residence located near the Capitol Building.


    Jennifer Granholm (second from right) with Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour (first left), Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius (second), United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (center), and Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue (right)
    In 2003, Granholm ran five miles across the Mackinac Bridge, which connects the state's two peninsulas, in 47 minutes during the Mackinac Bridge Walk. Her run began a new tradition, and 2004 saw the first annual Governor’s Labor Day Bridge Run[16] held hours before the Annual Bridge Walk. This time she finished the run in under 45 minutes. After joining her husband Daniel Mulhern for the last two miles of his October 24, 2004 Detroit Free Press/Flagstar Bank Marathon run, Granholm remarked "I would love to run a marathon before I'm 50."
    During Granholm’s first year in office, she made a significant number of budget cuts to deal with a $1.7 billion deficit (about 2% of the annual state budget). She was upset by proposals to cut state funding to social welfare programs, such as homeless shelters and mental health agencies. During an interview, she reflected on the proper perspective of budget cuts:
    it seems your boy Engler screwed the pooch.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are you not aware that budgets can overlap from one administration to another and one year to another? You really need to get educated about government. And here is the situation the new Democratic governor found herself in thanks to John Engler and his years in office slashing taxes from Wikipedia



    it seems your boy Engler screwed the pooch.
    I gave you the list of taxes that Engler cut but of course that didn't suit your agenda so you go after the Federal Funds that were cut. Budgets can be changed, Obama changed the 2009 budget then blamed Bush for the deficits. Granholm could have done the same thing with the 2003 Engler Budget. there isn't a social program that liberals will ever propose to cut regardless of how bloated or ineffecient they are. Stop thinking with your heart and use your brain.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Don't recall Engler being in office in 2003. As I recall Engler left office when Bush took office

    From your article



    You are really desparate as most liberals are


    Are you not aware that budgets can overlap from one administration to another and one year to another? You really need to get educated about government. And here is the situation the new Democratic governor found herself in thanks to John Engler and his years in office slashing taxes .... from Wikipedia

    Governor
    Granholm was sworn in as the 47th Governor of the state of Michigan on January 1, 2003. The main issue facing the governor has been the massive budget deficit. Granholm has had to eliminate upwards of $200 per person from state budget expenditures, successfully resolving over $6 billion in budget deficits. She has emphasized the need for the state to attract young people and businesses to Michigan via the Cool Cities Initiative.[14][15] As Governor, she is a member of the National Governors Association. She is chair of the Health and Human Services Committee and is co-chair of the Health Care Task Force of the National Governors Association. She is also a former Chair of the Midwestern Governors Association. She lives in the official Michigan Governor's Residence located near the Capitol Building.


    Jennifer Granholm (second from right) with Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour (first left), Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius (second), United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (center), and Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue (right)
    In 2003, Granholm ran five miles across the Mackinac Bridge, which connects the state's two peninsulas, in 47 minutes during the Mackinac Bridge Walk. Her run began a new tradition, and 2004 saw the first annual Governor’s Labor Day Bridge Run[16] held hours before the Annual Bridge Walk. This time she finished the run in under 45 minutes. After joining her husband Daniel Mulhern for the last two miles of his October 24, 2004 Detroit Free Press/Flagstar Bank Marathon run, Granholm remarked "I would love to run a marathon before I'm 50."
    During Granholm’s first year in office, she made a significant number of budget cuts to deal with a $1.7 billion deficit (about 2% of the annual state budget). She was upset by proposals to cut state funding to social welfare programs, such as homeless shelters and mental health agencies. During an interview, she reflected on the proper perspective of budget cuts:
    it seems your boy Engler screwed the pooch.
    Last edited by haymarket; 03-28-11 at 09:37 PM.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I gave you the list of taxes that Engler cut but of course that didn't suit your agenda so you go after the Federal Funds that were cut. Budgets can be changed, Obama changed the 2009 budget then blamed Bush for the deficits. Granholm could have done the same thing with the 2003 Engler Budget. there isn't a social program that liberals will ever propose to cut regardless of how bloated or ineffecient they are. Stop thinking with your heart and use your brain.
    Its always Obama with you ins't it?

    Google Answers: Budget and Employment Stats for the state of Michigan

    Seems you boy Engler left the state with nearly $4 billion in deficits over his last three budgets.
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