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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually we went out of business. The most we could get for kneecapping was $300.00 bucks and we just could not find the talent to do it right anymore. Back in the old days there were always a few kids willing to prove their chops and do those starting jobs like breaking thumbs, gouging eyes and hassling somebody's kids outside their school just to throw the fear of the union into them. But sadly, the good old days are gone and now their are but a distant memory of a better time. I think Jimmy Hoffa would roll over in his grave in the endzone of that football stadium if he could see our union leaders today eating quiche and sipping on white wine bribing politicians with Mexican time shares.

    Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
    only 300 bucks for a good kneecapping? damn...just damn.....back in the day that was a grand easy......i know times are tough and all, but only 300? i miss the good ol' days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I fail to see how your study shows that Chicago is a horrible place for equal education funding and racial/economic disparities in education.
    You are a piece of work. Those were two separate points. Point 1. You should know that Chicago is a horrible place for equal education/disparities because you live there. If you read the study it specifically, albeit briefly, mentions Illinois as one of the worst states. Point 2. The study was meant to answer your frequent, ignorant assertion that:

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There is absolutely no proof that spending more money helps students.
    I assume that you realize that the study and the reality of MA school reform prove your point wrong or else you would have had more to say than: what does that have to do with Chicago?
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    So your "boycott of UNION THUG SERVICES INC"......entails you giving UTS the money.....but refuse the service.

    .....that will show them!



    So its outside of their work......

    James L. Palmer, Executive Director
    Wisconsin Professional Police Association
    Mahlon Mitchell,President
    Professional Professional Fire Fighters
    Jim Conway, President
    International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311
    John Matthews, Execuctive Director
    Madison Teachers, Inc.
    Keith Patt, Executive Director
    Green Bay Education Association
    Bob Richardson, President
    Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association
    Dan Frei, Prersident
    Madison Professional Police Officers Association


    .....strange......they used their work titles......and listed their Government associations.......
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    I dont give my money to the union, I dont buy any Union services

    I may buy a car from Ford, and pay taxes to the government but I do not use any UNION services

    Please show me a UNION service that I use, not a service that might be provided by person who might be part of a union. It is a very important distinction mind you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Not necessarily increased funding. Reallocation of funds from their budgets would accomplish the very same thing. Spent more money on students. Less on administration. Less on legal fees. Less on nonteaching positions. This is such a slippery eel no one can get their arms around it -- other than to say: We Need More $$$$!!!

    Really? Do you have a link for that?
    The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court declared that Massachusetts had failed its constitutional duty “to provide education in the public schools for the children there enrolled, whether they be rich or poor and without regard to the fiscal capacity of the community or district in which such children live”.[...] Days later, after a special session of the legislature, the governor signed the Education Reform Act of 1993, which changed the way schools are funded in Massachusetts. During the following 10 years, from 1993 to 2003, state education funding increased by 12 percent a year, with a total price tag of about $30.8 billion. The additional state money was targeted to schools attended by poor students and went for tutoring programs, additional training for teachers, smaller classes, and technology.[...]This year’s results on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) demonstrated the effect of such focused efforts. Fourth-graders and eighth-graders in Massachusetts outperformed students in every other state in both reading and math. To give a sense of the improvement, in 1992, just 23 percent of Massachusetts’s fourth-graders were proficient in NAEP’s math standards; in 2005, 49 percent were proficient.
    1. Increased funding by 12% per year.
    2. Money directed to poor schools.
    3. Smaller classrooms, tutoring programs, technology, training.
    4. Literacy jumps by 26%.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You are a piece of work. Those were two separate points. Point 1. You should know that Chicago is a horrible place for equal education/disparities. If you read the study it specifically, albeit briefly, mentions Illinois as one of the worst states. Point 2. The study was meant to answer your frequent, ignorant assertion that:
    I'm getting very tired of your personal attacks, TPD. Whatever it mentioned "albeit briefly" should have been cited in your quote.

    I assume that you realize that the study and the reality of MA school reform prove your point wrong or else you would have had more to say than: what does that have to do with Chicago?
    Not at all. Your example was more than beat into the ground by statistics in New York State that I posted earlier. We can both cherry pick all day long...the fact remains that money alone (Catawba's ridiculous comparion to our military spending) will do nothing to give students a better education. It's how that money is spent. If you can't accept that statement as true, I really can't help you.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I dont give my money to the union, I dont buy any Union services
    Sure you do......via Federal Income Taxes, State Income Taxes, Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, City Income Taxes.....

    I may buy a car from Ford, and pay taxes to the government but I do not use any UNION services

    Please show me a UNION service that I use, not a service that might be provided by person who might be part of a union. It is a very important distinction mind you
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    1. Increased funding by 12% per year.
    2. Money directed to poor schools.
    3. Smaller classrooms, tutoring programs, technology, training.
    4. Literacy jumps by 26%.
    And you are proud that 49% of 4th graders were proficient? That's absurd. When people post statistics like that and call it success, is it any wonder many of us think we're flushing $$ down the toilet?
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Sure you do......via Federal Income Taxes, State Income Taxes, Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, City Income Taxes.....



    If you stretch any farther.....your risking dislocation.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Sure you do......via Federal Income Taxes, State Income Taxes, Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, City Income Taxes.....



    If you stretch any farther.....your risking dislocation.....
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    I pay the money to the government not the union. The government then uses that money to buy goods, services and income support for some. I did not buy any union service
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I pay the money to the government not the union. The government then uses that money to buy goods, services and income support for some. I did not buy any union service
    Wrong......Government takes the money from you, at gunpoint if necessary.....and gives it to the Union.

    The Union Circle of Theft
    From The Taxpayer......To Statist Government....To Union Slobs....To the Union....and back to Statist Politicians......
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