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    Re: Unions threaten Business

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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post


    Interesting but mindless

    the parasite mentality comes up with all sorts of arguments as to why the government should take more of SOMEONE else's money
    Lets clear up your insinuation that I am a parasite, I worked all of my life from before I was a teenager, I picked the fields when I was seven and when I went to high school I worked 48 hours a week shoveling sand coal and gravel.

    Now try to be a little less offensive as you respond

    The tax cuts were given to encourage job growth here in the USA show me the job growth, show me were the money went. We have seen the deficit and unemployment grow. Except in China and other foreign countries

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
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    If you side with those Republican bastards, we'll make sure you're business is driven into the ground until it folds up like a house of paper.
    I wouldn't call them bastards. They're more like puppets that are about to lose their jobs.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    No, it's called free speech.

    It's in the First Amendment. You should check it out.

    They get to CHOOSE who they do business with.
    I found it.......

    Article III Section 4
    Government's Right to Organize Against The Taxpayer
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    The tax cuts were given to encourage job growth here in the USA show me the job growth, show me were the money went. We have seen the deficit and unemployment grow. Except in China and other foreign countries
    Would a record 52-Months Continual Job Growth be proof of anything?
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    Have you ever........been hired by a poor person?
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Would a record 52-Months Continual Job Growth be proof of anything?
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    Have you ever........been hired by a poor person?
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    You're a great reciter of Fox News talking points. But if you reason it out...

    People who work in HR are relatively poor compared to the top 1%.

    So, yes, everyone gets hired by a 'poor' person.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Walmart is the largest employer in the USA, MacDonalds is number 2, Does Walmart manufacture some thing? MacDonalds sells fast food right? What incentive does private business have to invest in the USA?

    Unless we "the government" offer an incentive for businesses to invest in America why would they, if the last 10 years predict the future what do you think is going to happen that going to change the economic slide we are in right now?
    No. What WalMart DOES is buy goods at a lower price and sell goods. And they do it VERY effectively...so much so that they hire hu7ndreds of thousands of people. They turn a profit. They generate revenue so that they can open MORE stores and hire more people.

    Conversely...the government operates ONLY at a loss...and by hiring continually MORE people they operate at an even GREATER loss putting the taxpayers DEEPER into debt. And your solution is to make MORE federal employees...which...costs MORE tax dollars. Its the exact opposite of a growth cycle...its a suck cycle.

    We ABSOLUTELY need to reinvigorate the industrial base in America. That will come by incentivizing PRIVATE business and incvestors...not by increasing the size of a government workforce.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You're a great reciter of Fox News talking points.
    I only get PMSNBC......

    But if you reason it out...


    Tax cuts are good for job growth.....

    People who work in HR are relatively poor compared to the top 1%.
    Well as long as we exclude 99% from the comparison.....

    So, yes, everyone gets hired by a 'poor' person.
    Number of Jobs Created By Poor People (A.D. and B.C.)
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No. What WalMart DOES is buy goods at a lower price and sell goods. And they do it VERY effectively...so much so that they hire hu7ndreds of thousands of people. They turn a profit. They generate revenue so that they can open MORE stores and hire more people.

    Conversely...the government operates ONLY at a loss...and by hiring continually MORE people they operate at an even GREATER loss putting the taxpayers DEEPER into debt. And your solution is to make MORE federal employees...which...costs MORE tax dollars. Its the exact opposite of a growth cycle...its a suck cycle.

    We ABSOLUTELY need to reinvigorate the industrial base in America. That will come by incentivizing PRIVATE business and incvestors...not by increasing the size of a government workforce.
    In todays economy Walmart does provide employent and a shopping place where consumers can buy low cost products that were made mainly overseas utilizing low cost labor, the problem is that they buy from foreign countries employing foreign workers and sell their products here to American consumers. Walmart does not manufacture any thing and the manufacturing that they do contribute to is mostly from foreign countries. Walmart does employ Americans but how many smaller stores shut down and go out of business laying off Americans, Bottom line they purchase low cost products mostly made overseas.

    Refresh my memory where did I say that we should hire more government employees? We are in agreement as far as the need to reinvigorate the American industrial base and we definitely need to provide incentives before we are going to see any investments in America, so here is my suggestion instead of allowing the tax cuts to continue use that money as an incentive to promote job creation. Tax cuts to the unemployed mean nothing, tax cuts to those working below the poverty level mean nothing, what is that Chinese proverb? Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Give a person an unemployment or welfare check and you can feed them for a week, Give people a job and they can feed them selves for a life time

    We need to put people to work that means we need to stimulate job growth here in the USA not in China or any other foreign country. It should be obvious by now that trickle down does not work and that we need to do some thing different then we have been doing. Continuing doing what we have been doing will only increase the deficit and not create new jobs or generate the revenue needed to support our economy and our way of life

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    I only get PMSNBC...
    Proving Cause and Effect doesn't just involve producing a graph and saying look, it changed there so Y=f(X).
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by William Rea View Post
    Proving Cause and Effect doesn't just involve producing a graph and saying look, it changed there so Y=f(X).
    Correlation does not imply causation......unless its beneficial to the state and/or detrimental to conservatives, Republicans, Non-Democrats.
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