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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I hate to break this to you but in order for the middle class to compete with third world wages, leaves them with less than a living wage, which mean more slide from middle class to poor and have need of more need our safety net programs.
    I hate to break THIS to you, but there is a happy compromise that would bring jobs back to America (yes...a reduction in profit while remaining profitable and yes...lowering wages and benefits). The alternative is...welll...20-30% unemployment in major former industrial cities. Its what we are experiencing now. Me...Id rather see people making a realistic wage and be employed.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not for the middle class. We didn't get the big tax cuts those at the top did.

    Maybe because the middle class doesnt pay the big taxes.

    You describe yourself as middle class...how did you get to be middle class? Did someone come along and hand you a job?

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    OK so now were talking about national debt.......

    ....surely Barack HusSame Obama--The Most Expensive President in World History.......must cause you great outrage. Not to worry though.......Democrats have a plan to eliminate the Debt and the Deficit......by cutting a 6 Billion mouse fart.
    You are right that I would have been much happier with a liberal president, but it seems only moderate presidents get elected.

    Even still, Obama has proposed more spending cuts than his Rebublican predecessor in his 2012 budget. And just as importantly has proposed cutting the tax breaks for the most wealty.

    "In his FY 2012 budget, President Obama repeats his call for Congress to end the Bush-era tax cuts for higher-income individuals (which the president generally defines as single individuals with incomes over $200,000 and married couples with incomes over $250,000). The top individual income tax rates would increase to 36 percent and 39.6 percent, respectively, after 2012. For 2011 and 2012, the top two individual income tax rates are 33 percent and 35 percent, respectively. The president also proposes to limit the deductions of higher income individuals.

    Additionally, the president wants Congress to extend the reduced tax rates on capital gains and dividends, but not for higher-income individuals. Single individuals with incomes above $200,000 and married couples with incomes above $250,000 would pay capital gains and dividend taxes at 20 percent rather than at 15 percent after 2012."
    President's FY 2012 Proposals: Higher Taxes on Wealthy, Limited Tax Breaks for Businesses : On-line newsletters, Profitable Solutions for Nonprofits, Bottom Line, Indiana
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I hate to break THIS to you, but there is a happy compromise that would bring jobs back to America (yes...a reduction in profit while remaining profitable and yes...lowering wages and benefits). The alternative is...welll...20-30% unemployment in major former industrial cities. Its what we are experiencing now. Me...Id rather see people making a realistic wage and be employed.

    The middle class is decliing already do to the slashing of the progressive tax system while profits for the rich soar. If you cut their wages and benefits any more than you will have more poor people and increased need for social programs.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by William Rea View Post
    So even during all the years that the Republicans had power it was still da democrats wot done it. The Republicans were powerless to change a thing?

    We're back to conspiracy theories.
    "All the years".....


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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are right that I would have been much happier with a liberal president, but it seems only moderate presidents get elected.
    Barack HusSame Obama--Rated the #1 Liberal Senator in 2007.....even more liberal than Socialist Bernie Sanders.

    Even still, Obama has proposed more spending cuts than his Rebublican predecessor in his 2012 budget. And just as importantly has proposed cutting the tax breaks for the most wealty.

    "In his FY 2012 budget, President Obama repeats his call for Congress to end the Bush-era tax cuts for higher-income individuals (which the president generally defines as single individuals with incomes over $200,000 and married couples with incomes over $250,000). The top individual income tax rates would increase to 36 percent and 39.6 percent, respectively, after 2012. For 2011 and 2012, the top two individual income tax rates are 33 percent and 35 percent, respectively. The president also proposes to limit the deductions of higher income individuals.

    Additionally, the president wants Congress to extend the reduced tax rates on capital gains and dividends, but not for higher-income individuals. Single individuals with incomes above $200,000 and married couples with incomes above $250,000 would pay capital gains and dividend taxes at 20 percent rather than at 15 percent after 2012."
    President's FY 2012 Proposals: Higher Taxes on Wealthy, Limited Tax Breaks for Businesses : On-line newsletters, Profitable Solutions for Nonprofits, Bottom Line, Indiana
    When are you 50 million fish going to realize......its not what Obama says he is going to do that matters.......its what he actually does.

    And he is spending this country into oblivion......and beyond......like the Liberals before him....like the Liberals that will come after him, should America make that mistake.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    "All the years".....


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    Very colourful. Title? Titles for Axes? Explanation? How did a party have over 120% of the power in the 1940s?

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Was the largest mortgage underwriter in the world ADEQUATELY REGULATED in your opinion?
    considering that that entity was the United States of America, and given that "quality" rather than "quantity" of regulation is a portion of "adequate"; obviously the answer is no. The US Government very, very, stupidly (but perhaps sweetly) thought it could put every American family into a nice home irrespective of their ability to afford it without any economic downside.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by William Rea View Post
    Very colourful. Title? Titles for Axes? Explanation? How did a party have over 120% of the power in the 1940s?
    it's off of the House of Representatives. the up-down axis obviously isn't power, but it does appear to mirror Debt-to-GDP.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As has been documented, those making over $1 million get a $93,000 in tax breaks on average while those making under $1 million get $100 on average in tax breaks. As a result of increased costs for survival needs, the middle class has stagnated while those at the top have prospered.
    while I can almost agree with the $93,000 I have showed you that your $100. figure is a load of crap, yet you still use it ? why is that ?

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