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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I have a problem with a government that has banned one.
    public unions are a creation of the government and thus can be eliminated by the government. public unions negotiate with those who are often their supporters-in the private sector both sides are bargaining honestly for their own interests



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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I have a problem with a government that has banned one.
    Greatest loss of civil rights in 50 years!
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Greatest loss of civil rights in 50 years!


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    joining a public sector union is not a civil right



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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    joining a public sector union is not a civil right
    Not any more it isn't. Power to the corporation!!!
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    could also have been released to see if he could draw them back to wisconsin so they could be arrested and he could have a quorum.
    Possible, but I do doubt it. There were senators that were on the fence. I would think that if Walker made an agreement such as that, it is unlikely he would have been able to break it and keep them on his side. Additionally, i think there would have been a lot of political fallout from that decision. Even I would have a hard time defending a tactic in which the senators had all reached agreement, but then that agreement was broken in a manner in which you described..

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    for the representation, a fair price to have a voice.
    Except for those that do not like what the voice that is representing them is saying.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not any more it isn't. Power to the corporation!!!
    good-public sector unions are nothing more than malignancies that rob the taxpayers of money and elect politicians who disregard the interests of the taxpayers in favor of the unions that help elect them

    the less pubic sector unions the better for the nation and the taxpayers.



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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    The support was minimal? Does the following look minimal to you?

    UNIONS THREATEN BUSINESS | Newsradio 620 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Talk, Sports, Weather | Charlie Sykes

    March 10, 2011
    Mr. Tom Ellis, President
    Marshall & Ilsley Corporation
    770 N. Water Street
    Milwaukee, WI 53202
    SENT VIA FASCIMILE AND REGULAR MAIL
    Dear Mr. Ellis:
    As you undoubtedly know, Governor Walker recently proposed a “budget
    adjustment bill” to eviscerate public employees’ right to collectively bargain in
    Wisconsin. ..

    As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for
    office. If he had, we are confident that you would not be listed among his largest
    contributors. As such, we are contacting you now to request your support.

    The undersigned groups would like your company to publicly oppose Governor
    Walker’s efforts to virtually eliminate collective bargaining for public employees in
    Wisconsin. While we appreciate that you may need some time to consider this
    request, we ask for your response by March 17. In the event that you do not
    respond to this request by that date, we will assume that you stand with
    Governor Walker and against the teachers, nurses, police officers, fire fighters,
    and other dedicated public employees who serve our communities.


    In the event that you cannot support this effort to save collective bargaining,
    please be advised that the undersigned will publicly and formally boycott the
    goods and services provided by your company. However, if you join us, we will
    do everything in our power to publicly celebrate your partnership in the fight to
    preserve the right of public employees to be heard at the bargaining table.Wisconsin’s public employee unions serve to protect and promote equality and
    fairness in the workplace. We hope you will stand with us and publicly share that
    ideal.

    In the event you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact the
    executive Director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, Jim Palmer,
    at 608.273.3840.

    Thank you in advance for your consideration. We look forward to hearing from
    you soon.

    James L. Palmer, Executive Director
    Wisconsin Professional Police Association
    Mahlon Mitchell,President
    Professional Professional Fire Fighters
    Jim Conway, President
    International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311
    John Matthews, Execuctive Director
    Madison Teachers, Inc.
    Keith Patt, Executive Director
    Green Bay Education Association
    Bob Richardson, President
    Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association
    Dan Frei, Prersident
    Madison Professional Police Officers Association
    The biggest of those 4 unions was (I think) 1100 memebers. Pretend they were all 1100... So, yes. I do believe that unions representing 4,400 members is very minimal support when taking in context and compared to the membership of the other 300 some unions that did not offer Walker their endorsement. To claim that Walker is not subjecting FF and police unions to this bill, just to reward those 4 specific mediocre sized unions, is specious at best.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Greatest loss of civil rights in 50 years!
    Since when is collective bargaining a, "civil right"?

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Greatest loss of civil rights in 50 years!
    Do your "civil rights" trump taxpayer rights, employer rights, property rights?


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not any more it isn't. Power to the corporation!!!
    Power to the Taxpayer......God Bless America!
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