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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Well, we have emails that show otherwise. Walker had conceeded allowing recert votes every three years rather then annualy. The dem 14 still stayed away. Living on the border I get to listen to a lot of local WI radio. There were a handful of senate republicans that did not want to separate the two bills as was ultimately done. What changed those senator's minds was the realization that the WI14 had no interest in actually engage in any meaningful compramise.

    The support form those uniosn was minimal. If I recall the numbers correctly, and I think I do, the largest of the 4 had 1100 members.
    could also have been released to see if he could draw them back to wisconsin so they could be arrested and he could have a quorum.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I've heard that WI teachers pay over 1000 annually in union dues. divided by 12 = $83.00. I think it would annoy the hell out of me to have to write an $83.00 check every month.
    for the representation, a fair price to have a voice.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Huh??? So unless someone is a member of a union they are struggling for bare subsistence? Less than 12% of American workers belong to unions. Most of the rest of us, BWG, are doin' just fine.

    I've seen this opinion expressed many times before on DP. It makes me think that unions propagandize this viewpoint to keep their members in line. "The evil corporations..." "Us against them..." Yikes!
    Propaganda is a very good word for it, because that's what it is.
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    No Im saying its the Union's fault that Poor and Middle Class taxpayers are being raped via State Income Taxes, Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, and City Income Taxes.........in the name of providing Public Sector Union slobs with their Bloated Salaries, Gold Plated Health Care, and Diamond Inlayed Pensions.

    As I said, maybe the Poor and Middle Class could afford their own......if they werent too damn broke after paying for yours.
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    What


    How is it possible when Turtledude and so many claim the poor and middle class dont pay taxes
    Conservatives believe that the government is incompetent, and seek to elect people who will ensure it is

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I've heard that WI teachers pay over 1000 annually in union dues. divided by 12 = $83.00. I think it would annoy the hell out of me to have to write an $83.00 check every month.
    Why?

    Typically the extra compensation that a union negotiates for its members is greater then the cost of the union due. As such it is a good return on that investment. To be upset at spending $83 and getting $200 in return would be idiotic
    Conservatives believe that the government is incompetent, and seek to elect people who will ensure it is

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Well, we have emails that show otherwise. Walker had conceeded allowing recert votes every three years rather then annualy. The dem 14 still stayed away. Living on the border I get to listen to a lot of local WI radio. There were a handful of senate republicans that did not want to separate the two bills as was ultimately done. What changed those senator's minds was the realization that the WI14 had no interest in actually engage in any meaningful compramise.

    The support from those unions was minimal. If I recall the numbers correctly, and I think I do, the largest of the 4 had 1100 members.
    The support was minimal? Does the following look minimal to you?

    UNIONS THREATEN BUSINESS | Newsradio 620 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Talk, Sports, Weather | Charlie Sykes

    March 10, 2011
    Mr. Tom Ellis, President
    Marshall & Ilsley Corporation
    770 N. Water Street
    Milwaukee, WI 53202
    SENT VIA FASCIMILE AND REGULAR MAIL
    Dear Mr. Ellis:
    As you undoubtedly know, Governor Walker recently proposed a “budget
    adjustment bill” to eviscerate public employees’ right to collectively bargain in
    Wisconsin. ..

    As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for
    office. If he had, we are confident that you would not be listed among his largest
    contributors. As such, we are contacting you now to request your support.

    The undersigned groups would like your company to publicly oppose Governor
    Walker’s efforts to virtually eliminate collective bargaining for public employees in
    Wisconsin. While we appreciate that you may need some time to consider this
    request, we ask for your response by March 17. In the event that you do not
    respond to this request by that date, we will assume that you stand with
    Governor Walker and against the teachers, nurses, police officers, fire fighters,
    and other dedicated public employees who serve our communities.


    In the event that you cannot support this effort to save collective bargaining,
    please be advised that the undersigned will publicly and formally boycott the
    goods and services provided by your company. However, if you join us, we will
    do everything in our power to publicly celebrate your partnership in the fight to
    preserve the right of public employees to be heard at the bargaining table.Wisconsin’s public employee unions serve to protect and promote equality and
    fairness in the workplace. We hope you will stand with us and publicly share that
    ideal.

    In the event you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact the
    executive Director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, Jim Palmer,
    at 608.273.3840.

    Thank you in advance for your consideration. We look forward to hearing from
    you soon.

    James L. Palmer, Executive Director
    Wisconsin Professional Police Association
    Mahlon Mitchell,President
    Professional Professional Fire Fighters
    Jim Conway, President
    International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311
    John Matthews, Execuctive Director
    Madison Teachers, Inc.
    Keith Patt, Executive Director
    Green Bay Education Association
    Bob Richardson, President
    Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association
    Dan Frei, Prersident
    Madison Professional Police Officers Association

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    What


    How is it possible when Turtledude and so many claim the poor and middle class dont pay taxes
    They dont pay Federal Income Taxes......
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    for the representation, a fair price to have a voice.
    From the same people that think paying 1-3% of their Gold Plated Health Care and Diamond Inlayed Pension is asking too much......
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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    From the same people that think paying 1-3% of their Gold Plated Health Care and Diamond Inlayed Pension is asking too much......
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    i had no problem with the governor asking for a bigger contribution.

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    Re: Unions threaten Business

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i had no problem with the governor asking for a bigger contribution.
    Well 5 decades and a wellstone of Union debt later......

    .....thats good to hear.
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